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michael-crxsi 09-23-2009 04:41 PM

How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 
I've heard if you over tighten it can mess up you brakes. How tight should I tighten my wheels?

90RENOsedan 09-23-2009 04:44 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 
you heard wrong. tighten them til you can't tighten them anymore by hand. if you're using air, tighten them til the gun stops.

seanbev24 09-23-2009 04:57 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 
Huh? It's like 80-85 foot pounds.

gator88 09-23-2009 04:59 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 

Originally Posted by 90RENOsedan (Post 40060939)
you heard wrong. tighten them til you can't tighten them anymore by hand. if you're using air, tighten them til the gun stops.

I have a gun that you wont ever stop, it will spin away with a snapped off stud in your socket.

85 lb/ft

and yes it can warp your rotors by over torquing. You heard right

grog 09-23-2009 05:03 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 
80 lb-ft, and thats from the helm manual so thats the "official" spec.

Ass$nyper 09-23-2009 05:06 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 
It's 80-85, you may or may not need to adapt a few ft lbs for aftermarket wheels.

Yes lugs can be over torqued.

I'm a bit of a retentive man when it comes to this and I will not use a gun it's hand then torque wrench.

.Manny. 09-23-2009 05:09 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 
I use a 3/8" impact gun at the lowest setting just to snug them. then the trusty torque wrench at 80lb-ft

D16SiHatch 09-23-2009 05:11 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 
they should be tight, (80-85 ft/lbs ^), but i dont think i would say till you cant do it anymore by hand. if you're using a 1/2" ratchet then that might be about right. if you're using a 4-way however you could very well break off one of the studs. also, not all air guns are the same. setting the impact gun to its highest setting might not be advisable.

grog 09-23-2009 05:22 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 

Originally Posted by Ass$nyper (Post 40061169)
you may or may not need to adapt a few ft lbs for aftermarket wheels.

is that for softer material or what? or is that just what those manufactures recommend?

HackeN 09-23-2009 05:49 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 
I use whatever. Sometimes a 3/8 socketwrench, sometimes a 1/2 impact. It's not like I sit there and hammer it down on the impact, only takes a split second or so.

But I never tighten mine too much, there's no reason to. I hate taking others off that are torqued down like crazy. Never had a problem w/ mine comming lose from the cheapest lug nuts available, to expensive ones, from stock steelies to aftermarket aluminum wheels.

People tent to over torque things thinking that it's going to fall off if they don't. It's like hearing about people snapping or stripping bolts/threads on their valve covers when they can be tightened down with your fingers basically. I personally use a screwdriver w/ 10mm socket on it to do mine just so i never do that ;x

mother ef-er 09-23-2009 07:42 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 
^ w3rd. you can overtighten your lugnuts, but you gotta be a real "musle man". with the right tools you dont have to worry. use an eletric impact and let it max for a couple seconds. really, its not that big of a deal when using good tools.

or if youre tightening lug nuts with a torque wrench, just use standard specs. its kind of a simple theory..

Ass$nyper 09-23-2009 08:58 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 

Originally Posted by grog (Post 40061348)
is that for softer material or what? or is that just what those manufactures recommend?

To be honest I'm not sure but I've seen a few cars that aftermarket wheels ask for a few more ft lbs.

I've heard a few theories but I'll read up and try to figure it out.

EL Vap133 09-23-2009 09:48 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 
Cross tighten them.

Ass$nyper 09-23-2009 09:53 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 
Cross tightening or star pattern should be assumed.. least I hope :P

apekd 09-23-2009 09:59 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 

Originally Posted by 90RENOsedan (Post 40060939)
you heard wrong. tighten them til you can't tighten them anymore by hand. if you're using air, tighten them til the gun stops.

SLAP! your dumb

Originally Posted by seanbev24 (Post 40061069)
Huh? It's like 80-85 foot pounds.

yeah thats the spec most people go by. Honda does about 100 ft lbs. Gray torque stick

Originally Posted by gator88 (Post 40061093)
and yes it can warp your rotors by over torquing. You heard right

seen it MANY times. it sucks!

Originally Posted by Ass$nyper (Post 40061169)
Yes lugs can be over torqued.

yup. lol if people have rotas then yes, they NEED to me over torqued haha

Ass$nyper 09-23-2009 10:01 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 

Originally Posted by apekd (Post 40064200)
yup. lol if people have rotas then yes, they NEED to me over torqued haha

over torqued why?

I torque both my SW388s and Slips to the same 85 ft lbs.

apekd 09-23-2009 10:07 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 
^It was a joke lol I dont like rota's very much. When I was in high school 2 years ago every kid and their moms had rotas. I thought the 17's and 18's where annoying till this stage. lol

Ass$nyper 09-23-2009 10:11 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 
Oh.

I had hoped you'd be able to solve the mystery of why some aftermarket wheels request a different torquing.

apekd 09-23-2009 10:15 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 

Originally Posted by Ass$nyper (Post 40064308)
Oh.

I had hoped you'd be able to solve the mystery of why some aftermarket wheels request a different torquing.

well the torque value depends on the stud and nuts strength mainly. but when the wheel is a different material (IE Aluminum) it tends to need less as when the rotor heats up the heat passes into the wheel. heat will soften the rim meaning you can actually warp the wheel if the studs are too tight. I know there is more info on this than my $.02 worth

Ass$nyper 09-23-2009 10:17 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 
That's what I assumed but a few cars I've had the aftermarket rims made sure to note using MORE ft lbs then OEM.

That's what I'm rather perplexed about.

apekd 09-23-2009 10:19 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 
hmmm...i never really see MORE than OEM. maybe its so the weakling thiefs out there cant steal the rims?

Ass$nyper 09-23-2009 10:23 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 

Originally Posted by apekd (Post 40064369)
hmmm...i never really see MORE than OEM. maybe its so the weakling thiefs out there cant steal the rims?

LMFAO :beer:

apekd 09-23-2009 10:27 PM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 
lol

I know that Blox extended studs need less from what I remember. Not sure if its just cause they are POS studs and break fast, or something else :beer:

theft24 09-24-2009 12:55 AM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 

Originally Posted by 90RENOsedan (Post 40060939)
you heard wrong. tighten them til you can't tighten them anymore by hand. if you're using air, tighten them til the gun stops.

tighten till it bottoms out then 4-6 hits after that

dacrxguy 09-24-2009 06:43 AM

Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??
 

Originally Posted by 90RENOsedan (Post 40060939)
you heard wrong. tighten them til you can't tighten them anymore by hand. if you're using air, tighten them til the gun stops.

wow i would never let you work on my car the spec is 80ftlb ii hope you never use a 500ftlb gun

some manufactures recommend cheking the tourque after 20 miles on aluminom wheels


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