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949 08-04-2009 05:54 AM

what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 
i was curious what kinds of problems will show if the main relay starts to go bad.

dephtone 08-04-2009 06:25 AM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 
Car won't start after parked for just a minute.
Car won't start when hot outside. Fuel injected PGMFI models only
Car starts but quickly dies as the rpm shoots to 1300 rpm.
Once started the car won't stall.
the symptoms return after shutting off the hot engine
No humming sound from the fuel pump the moment the ignition switches ON.
No click sound after the ignition key turns
10-15 of waiting and the car pushed to a shade will usually start.

http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelay.html

^ Great info on repairing the main relay and or everything you need to test yours out or even by-pass it.

949 08-04-2009 06:47 AM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 
i think the first 3 sound just like whats going on with mine.

the 4th one you listed doesnt make sense to me ?

thanks that really helps me out.

i think ill just buy a new one.

sde780 08-04-2009 06:48 AM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 
take yours out & resolder it, much cheaper

dephtone 08-04-2009 07:03 AM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 
Once started the car won't stall.

Meaning that the solder contacts have melted onto another part of the board which keeps constant power going to the board instead of the power leaving when you turn the ignition off.

Re-soldering your old one > 45 bucks for a new one. The site I listed shows you everything to do to resolder it and what the connections should look like when you open it.

949 08-04-2009 07:53 AM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 
ok, i guess i have plenty of time right now. i can give it try.

949 08-04-2009 01:49 PM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 
just finished it. ill be testing if it changes behavior.

i removed all the old solder on each of the contact points.
then i gave it a ton of soilder on the top of each point.

palmbayeg 08-18-2009 07:52 AM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 
Ive had simular problems like this and i am planning on resoldering my main relay as well. I was just curious what your turnout was?

949 08-19-2009 05:52 AM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 
i dont think i noticed much of a difference. im still having problem starting up.

~sp33~ 08-19-2009 07:05 AM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 

Originally Posted by dephtone (Post 39497417)
Car won't start after parked for just a minute.
Car won't start when hot outside. Fuel injected PGMFI models only
Car starts but quickly dies as the rpm shoots to 1300 rpm.
Once started the car won't stall.
the symptoms return after shutting off the hot engine
No humming sound from the fuel pump the moment the ignition switches ON.
No click sound after the ignition key turns
10-15 of waiting and the car pushed to a shade will usually start.

http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelay.html

^ Great info on repairing the main relay and or everything you need to test yours out or even by-pass it.

Good post.


Originally Posted by 949 (Post 39675886)
i dont think i noticed much of a difference. im still having problem starting up.

What are your symptoms. Is it just cranking for a long time before starting?

alltech_Si1via4 08-25-2009 04:47 PM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 
Mine is acting the same way..after I replaced the main relay it started fine once and ran. Then it shut off and would only crank but not turn over?? And it doesnt struggle before it dies.

ed4_civic 08-25-2009 07:31 PM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 
I could remove my main relay and tap on it a couple time and my car would start right up and that's how i knew it was the main relay i could actually feel it click in my hand

Hiboost 2.0 05-01-2013 02:03 PM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 
i kno this is a 09 post but with a bad relay would the pump stop working .. or after the car dies no humming after the first turn of the key?

949 05-08-2013 10:43 PM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 
not sure. maybe take a video and show us what you got going on.

Z0831xiz 05-09-2013 11:24 AM

my car has problems too. i switch to ignition and it just cranks and cranks and cranks. then it slowly starts to stutter like barely getting fuel then slowly a little more then it cuts on... and when I'd break harsh on. stop sign . it just shuts off...
now it won't turn on at all will just crank and crank...
if any help please do!!


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CXHBumpin39 06-13-2013 01:46 PM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 

Originally Posted by Z0831xiz (Post 48762926)
my car has problems too. i switch to ignition and it just cranks and cranks and cranks. then it slowly starts to stutter like barely getting fuel then slowly a little more then it cuts on... and when I'd break harsh on. stop sign . it just shuts off...
now it won't turn on at all will just crank and crank...
if any help please do!!


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I have the same issue with mine..

EFlovin' 06-13-2013 04:34 PM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 
Are you guys getting spark? Check possibly

CXHBumpin39 06-13-2013 07:22 PM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 
I had spark on every plug

Z0831xiz 06-13-2013 07:42 PM

as do I. but I believe my problem might be my timing belt/chain. its lose on one side. tight on the other.


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POPLERO 06-14-2013 10:48 AM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 
bump as this is some good info to kno

Purfect 06-14-2013 08:41 PM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 
When my main relay went bad. .My car slugged at the start. then started to slug more and more.. till i got tired of the fact that it might not start took out the main relay smelled it (smelled burnt) Bought a new one. fixed the problem.

Z0831xiz 06-14-2013 08:58 PM

I tried 3 relays. including my own.

1 different ecu mpfi obd0 integra pr4 ecu.

changed my injectors to d15b7 then to another set from eBay I bought meant for d16a6.

changed fuel filter. new.

I hear fuel pump hum kicking in.

I tried hand over manifold with Carb cleaner inside.
started but then died was idling during process.

and I noticed my timing belt is sorta loss by my thought it should be really tight. so I'm trying that next.
so far nothing has worked.

any ideas would be great!


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Purfect 06-14-2013 09:46 PM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 

Originally Posted by Z0831xiz (Post 48877171)
I tried 3 relays. including my own.

1 different ecu mpfi obd0 integra pr4 ecu.

changed my injectors to d15b7 then to another set from eBay I bought meant for d16a6.

changed fuel filter. new.

I hear fuel pump hum kicking in.

I tried hand over manifold with Carb cleaner inside.
started but then died was idling during process.

and I noticed my timing belt is sorta loss by my thought it should be really tight. so I'm trying that next.
so far nothing has worked.

any ideas would be great!


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Your car isnt starting?

Z0831xiz 06-14-2013 10:14 PM

nope I changed or check all those things still doesn't start


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Purfect 06-14-2013 10:17 PM

Re: what are the symptoms if my main relay is going bad?
 

Originally Posted by Z0831xiz (Post 48877249)
nope I changed or check all those things still doesn't start


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Whats the start sound like.. or lack of start?
I mean does it slug, just clicks? i mean the sound helps quit a bit.


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