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dans00civicSI 09-19-2008 07:00 PM

Turbo B16a2
 
I wanna turbo my stock b16 but I dont no what turbo kit to get and what boost to run on the stock engine that would be safe for an everyday driver.I wanna be around 250whp. But not blow it up. I thought about building it with a forced induction brian crower stroker kit to a 1.9. With some head work. If I buil it i wanna run 350-400whp. Would that be safe to do on a built engine.

95dxsir2 09-19-2008 07:18 PM

Re: Turbo B16a2 (dans00civicSI)
 
wow? how much money do want to spend?
and you need to make up your mind on which way to go, and you would make A LOT more than 350-400whp with a stroker kit/sleeved set up.lol

gsrhatch2356 09-19-2008 07:26 PM

Re: Turbo B16a2 (dans00civicSI)
 
Well a good start would be just to run about 10-11psi on the stock engine untill you can get something built. this will easily put you over the 250whp. once you sleeve it and get the arp set you can pretty much run a insane amount of boost but do need to take into consideration like valve springs and retainers. axles, street slicks, lsd, etc, etc, etc,. its never ending. I run 11psi on my stock gsr and get 305whp have had no problems accept traction. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

dans00civicSI 09-19-2008 07:32 PM

Re: Turbo B16a2 (95dxsir2)
 
well im thinking more of stroking it. It would be about 4 grand to build the engine. Bottom up.I just dont no what turbo set up to get. Or does some place out there have turbo kits set up ready to buy to with stand 400+.

naRIPSTA 09-19-2008 07:32 PM

I know this is not within your power goals, just a thought though

Friend of mine boosted his stock 00 Si with the Greddy turbo kit and Greddy FMIC. He said the e-manage was shit though lol, and recommend something else.

Here was his setup though,

GReddy turbo kit with FMIC @ 5psi
GReddy FCU
NGK BKR7E's gapped at .030
Stock exhaust/cat
Action Stage 2KS clutch

https://www.dslextreme.com/users/tur.../dynograph.jpg

dans00civicSI 09-19-2008 07:40 PM

Re: (naRIPSTA)
 
Nice i only question about building it cuz i gotta pay for school next year. I dont mind boosting it stock. Just i have 141xxx miles on it. I no b16a2 are cheep to so i thought about motor swaping it with one with less miles. Also do i have to switch to OBD1 for tunning it

THC07 09-19-2008 07:53 PM

Re: (dans00civicSI)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dans00civicSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice i only question about building it cuz i gotta pay for school next year. I dont mind boosting it stock. Just i have 141xxx miles on it. I no b16a2 are cheep to so i thought about motor swaping it with one with less miles. Also do i have to switch to OBD1 for tunning it
</TD></TR></TABLE>

yup, gotta go obd1.

save your money for school mang.

95dxsir2 09-19-2008 08:47 PM

Re: Turbo B16a2 (dans00civicSI)
 
I'm tellin you, with a stroked 1.9, 450whp would be low boost

R.I.P 2000 Si 09-20-2008 02:14 AM

Re: Turbo B16a2 (95dxsir2)
 
ok here the deal I had a 2000 Civic Si with the B16a2 stock on turbo on 10psi making 250 whp only lasted like 2 weeks cracked the pistons b16 can't handle turbo unless you change the pistons save some cash buy pistons and get it sleeved.

naRIPSTA 09-20-2008 02:31 AM

Re: Turbo B16a2 (R.I.P 2000 Si)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R.I.P 2000 Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok here the deal I had a 2000 Civic Si with the B16a2 stock on turbo on 10psi making 250 whp only lasted like 2 weeks cracked the pistons b16 can't handle turbo unless you change the pistons save some cash buy pistons and get it sleeved. </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emhammer.gif

R.I.P 2000 Si 09-21-2008 12:00 AM

Re: Turbo B16a2 (R.I.P 2000 Si)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by naRIPSTA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

LOL. </TD></TR></TABLE> ok lame fool

naRIPSTA 09-21-2008 12:03 AM

Re: Turbo B16a2 (R.I.P 2000 Si)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R.I.P 2000 Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ok lame fool </TD></TR></TABLE>

You're on some bullshit if you think a B16 can't handle turbo. There's stock B16 motors out there running way higher horsepower numbers boosted than you, and have yet to blow.


Modified by naRIPSTA at 1:12 AM 9/21/2008

Mr. Em1 09-21-2008 12:17 AM

greddy kit would be peffect for you, if you wanna spend 4k on a motor do yourself a favor and buy a dart block. PLEASE FOR YOUR OWN GOOD DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE YOU WASTE ALOT OF MONEY MAN.
GOOD LUCK

dans00civicSI 09-21-2008 04:53 AM

Re: (Mr. Em1)
 
If get a dart block with 84.5mm bore and a brian crower strocker kit with 84.5mm bore can i still sleeve or is there any point to cuz the block is so strong

batallic 09-21-2008 04:58 AM

Re: Turbo B16a2 (R.I.P 2000 Si)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R.I.P 2000 Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok here the deal I had a 2000 Civic Si with the B16a2 stock on turbo on 10psi making 250 whp only lasted like 2 weeks cracked the pistons b16 can't handle turbo unless you change the pistons save some cash buy pistons and get it sleeved. </TD></TR></TABLE>

the tuner sux then, thers plenty stock b16 with with more power that are styll holdin up

longshot 09-21-2008 05:34 AM

Re: Turbo B16a2 (dans00civicSI)
 
my friend did this, daily drove it and DEF. didnt make 250hp and he blew his car uip n 6 psi.

b16s dont like boost man.

formby 09-21-2008 06:48 AM

have you checked the compresion numbers in your engine?

you need to know the condition of the engine before you boost it. a lot of problems can come up after you boost it.
also
the best bolt in turbo kit in my opinion is the edelbrock victor x kit with a p28 and bigget injectors. the greddy kit is not as good

http://www.edelbrock.com/sport...shtml


97_coupe 09-21-2008 07:45 AM

Re: Turbo B16a2 (longshot)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R.I.P 2000 Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok here the deal I had a 2000 Civic Si with the B16a2 stock on turbo on 10psi making 250 whp only lasted like 2 weeks cracked the pistons b16 can't handle turbo unless you change the pistons save some cash buy pistons and get it sleeved. </TD></TR></TABLE>


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by longshot &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my friend did this, daily drove it and DEF. didnt make 250hp and he blew his car uip n 6 psi.

b16s dont like boost man.</TD></TR></TABLE>

really..............who tuned it, how long was it tuned for, what parts were used, how many miles on the motor, did you do a compression check and a leakdown test before you boosted it, how was the motor treated when it was NA? Something was definitely wrong with one or more of the above factors.

big-cat 09-21-2008 10:01 AM

another one of these threads??????????? there is alot of knowledge that you have yet to retain. go to the top right and click on the search button and then ask your questions and hit the archived button and search away I swear I hear one of these every day atleast if not more.

and to the guy who said you blew your b16 up in 2 weeks its because you did something wrong. they are fine to be boosted.

turbojdmhatch 09-21-2008 10:48 AM

Re: Turbo B16a2 (longshot)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by longshot &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my friend did this, daily drove it and DEF. didnt make 250hp and he blew his car uip n 6 psi.

b16s dont like boost man without a tune.</TD></TR></TABLE>

fixed how many fools are out there running their motors without a tune https://honda-tech.com/zeroavatar/192549

bigD 09-21-2008 01:41 PM

im going on 2 years at 260hp on my b16, dont listen to the noobs, make sure you are starting off with a healthy motor and get a good tune and it will last.

gsrhatch2356 09-21-2008 07:54 PM

Re: (bigD)
 
the tune is the most important part of the project. A lean condintion can not only melt pstions but the wrong a\f ratio can cause preignition cause lean means very hot temps. so those hot temps ignite the fuel before the piston makes it al the way up and breaks rods, cracks pistons, etc, etc. any way the tuner that I use says that its not really how much boost that kills a engine anyway its horsepower. he went on about the whole cfm's and smaller turbos vs bigger ones and so bottom line is the motor can handle it if you just get it tuned properly.

FowDow 09-22-2008 09:41 AM

Re: (gsrhatch2356)
 
what he said lol https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

R.I.P 2000 Si 09-24-2008 09:41 PM

Re: Turbo B16a2 (naRIPSTA)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by naRIPSTA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You're on some bullshit if you think a B16 can't handle turbo. There's stock B16 motors out there running way higher horsepower numbers boosted than you, and have yet to blow.


Modified by naRIPSTA at 1:12 AM 9/21/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

B16 don't last on boost lame they are high compression which is not good for turbo so get you head out of your rear end and stop bullsh*ting the kid.

naRIPSTA 09-24-2008 10:47 PM

Re: Turbo B16a2 (R.I.P 2000 Si)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R.I.P 2000 Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

B16 don't last on boost lame they are high compression which is not good for turbo so get you head out of your rear end and stop bullsh*ting the kid. </TD></TR></TABLE>

All I read was blah blah blah. I'm not bullshitting him at all.

You're the one that's bullshitting him. Saying a B16 can't handle boost, shut your trap dude. Hell, I even posted up my friend's setup with a dynochart and everything.

You just step into the thread saying yours blew. Without any info, such as, what parts were used, what kind of turbo, who tuned it, what was it tuned on, etc.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif


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