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someone told me that the h22a is better than the h22a4 even though the a4 has like 10hp more and least 10lbs of torque as well so how is the h22a better? is that true?

The h22a4 has 10 more hp than the h22a1, not the h22a. The h22a is the jdm motor, which has 200 hp as well (I THINK), but a little higher compression than the USDM.

i think the h22a has like 220 or less i think!!!!

Re: h22a vs h22a4 (severen)

h22a has 200hp on motor dynos for like 165hp to the wheels

Re: h22a vs h22a4 (thaiswirls)

okay okay okay...well I was in a hurry befor I posted that last one...I was thinking on a whole differnt topic or wtf i honestly don't know what I was thinking.....any way I have a H22a..The only difference I can see is that my JDM block has a slightly higher compression that the USDM H22a4

Now the transmisson of the h22a4? I looked into seeing if I could use the A4's tranny because the SH has stock LSD......well I can't and what I heard of was because of the ATTS and corrisponding hardware............blah blah blah this will teach me to proof read my post so I'm sure they make sense https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

Are ther any other differences??? they started making the H22 in 91 in Japan 92 in the US mine is from a 93(JDM).......

now as we all know all motors are rated to the crank

Credit goes to accordinglydone.com for the stats.

"H Series" Engine Specifications:

Engine Code Models Years Horsepower (SAE) Torque (ft-lbs) Compression Ratio Bore (mm) Stroke (mm) Layout Displacement (cc) Market

H22 Prelude VTEC 92-96 200 161 10.6:1 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 JDM
H22A Accord SiR 94-97 190 152 10.6:1 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 JDM
H22A Prelude SiR 97-01 200 161 10.6:1 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 JDM
H22A Prelude Type S 97-01 209 158 11.0:1 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 JDM
H22A1 Prelude 97-98 195 156 10.0:1 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 USDM
H22A1 Prelude VTEC 93-96 190 156 10.0:1 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 USDM
H22A2 Prelude 2.2i 94-96 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 EDM
H22A4 Prelude SH 99-01 200 156 10.0:1 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 USDM
H22A5 Prelude 2157 EDM
H22A7 Accord Type R 97-01 220 163 11.0:1 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 JDM
H23 Prelude Type S 93-95 160 156 9.8:1 87 95 DOHC 2259 JDM
H23A1 Prelude Si; SE 92-96 160 156 9.8:1 87 95 DOHC 2259 USDM
H23A2 Prelude; Accord 2.3i 92-96 158 9.8:1 87 95 DOHC 2259 EDM
H23A3 Accord 2.3l 93+ 158 9.8:1 87 95 SOHC 2259 EDM

Modified by I got the CD5 Jeebies! at 5:17 AM 5/20/2006

Re: h22a vs h22a4 (severen)

Re: h22a vs h22a4 (98vtec)

Lol, Is this the official "NOOB" thread?

h22a4 > h22a by far, its notated by the 4 which means 4 times better.. than before

Re: h22a vs h22a4 (98vtec)

well i meant h22a1 and its atts active torque transfer system but not all h22a4 have that its only the 5th gen type SH not the base

Re: h22a vs h22a4 (severen)

Rumor has it that VTEC stands for "Vehicle That Eats Children." https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

Really though, if you want to know which one is "better,' look around in the esentials or do some searches on threads that compare them. You may find that it's quite subjective...beyond stock HP.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mykizism »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">h22a4 > h22a by far, its notated by the 4 which means 4 times better.. than before</TD></TR></TABLE>

...sometimes older is better...nice logic btw

Re: h22a vs h22a4 (I got the CD5 Jeebies!)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I got the CD5 Jeebies! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the reason the H22a4 motor sucks (imo) is ATS which is...god I forget....ummmmmmmm Auto Tourqe sumtin....shit anyhoo has alot of limitation on what you can do to that motor...</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol...dude.....thats just the tranny side. it has nothing to do with the engine! also, only the SH's have ATTS.

Re: h22a vs h22a4 (I got the CD5 Jeebies!)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I got the CD5 Jeebies! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Correct I have the H22a motor it has 200 hp and 161 with a 10.6:1 compression all rated AT THE CRANK!!!!! the reason the H22a4 motor sucks (imo) is ATS which is...god I forget....ummmmmmmm Auto Tourqe sumtin....shit anyhoo has alot of limitation on what you can do to that motor...

Credit goes to accordinglydone.com for the stats.

H22A4 Prelude SH 99-01 200 156 10.0:1 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 USDM

</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong. I have an H22A4 in my 91 Accord. I DO NOT have ATTS and Not all Preludes with this motor were type SH.There is no more a limiation on building this motor than any other H22

H22a4 has that weird torque thing
+1 for the H22a

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bauergold »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">H22a4 has that weird torque thing
+1 for the H22a</TD></TR></TABLE>

moron.

lol i get yah cb7 i think thats it whenever i hear shit about my engine people think that all of them have atts but i try and tell people thats only the SH but yeah so yeah i guess its all in peoples head i jus heard thigns about it nothing specific but yeah im sticking with mine anyway maybe h23vtec doubt it though

Re: (onefastrx7turbo)

Everyone is now a little bit dumber from seeing this thread https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif

Just curious... because if this is true...
H22 Prelude VTEC 92-96 200 161 10.6:1 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 JDM
H22A Accord SiR 94-97 190 152 10.6:1 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 JDM
H22A Prelude SiR 97-01 200 161 10.6:1 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 JDM

If they all ahve the same compression... why does the Accord SiR have less HP/Tq?

Thanks

^any number of things, factory bolt ons, tuning, etc

this thread is stupid
ya'll are arguing like 5-10hp at the crank matters....get the cheapest damn one and build it yourself or get the jdm type s or stfu

/thread

Re: (Silver Surfer)

Wow...read the FAQ's you bastards. Now i def. agree with 98vtec on these bullshyt ass threads. And I havent even ben a member for that long...I just have common sense and use my 3rd grade education to READ. I quit.

I would just like to take this time to welcome all the newbs that showed-up to post in this thread.

okay, well I answered the question at the very beginning of the thread, then everyone else had to jack it up.

For the record, for everyone that's calling out the "noobs", just know that I've been around preludes for a LONG time, even though my post count doesn't show it (yet). I was on PO.com for 4 yrs., then got out of this whole internet thing for a while, now I'm back. I'm just not too keen on h22a specs and sh!t. Ask me anything h23 though, and I'll tell you. lol

Re: (DIRTYsouthBB6)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DIRTYsouthBB6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would just like to take this time to welcome all the newbs that showed-up to post in this thread.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hahahaha https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Too many BS statements in here, even I'm confused now!! https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cb7-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Not all Preludes with this motor were type SH.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Right, some are ATTS and some aren't. Easiest way to identify these blocks is by looking at the oil filter location and angle.