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BB6-213 04-06-2006 03:22 PM

1000cc R1 motor in banshee, sand rail, or go-kart?
 
I have a really good deal on a complete R1 motor, and I was wondering if I could put this in a banshee, sand rail, or a go-kart without too many huge mods. I work at a steel shop so custom fab wouldnt be a problem, so what would you guys do?

Mag00n 04-06-2006 03:30 PM

Re: 1000cc R1 motor in banshee, sand rail, or go-kart? (BB6-213)
 
go kart would be the funnest but do your research and build it right or youll kill yourself.....seriously

BB6-213 04-06-2006 03:41 PM

Re: 1000cc R1 motor in banshee, sand rail, or go-kart? (Macan00n)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Macan00n &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go kart would be the funnest but do your research and build it right or youll kill yourself.....seriously</TD></TR></TABLE>

You bet I will. I am leaning towards a really wide, caged go-kart, just for safetys sake, I just wonder what I am going to do for tires lol.

MSchu 04-06-2006 03:49 PM

Re: 1000cc R1 motor in banshee, sand rail, or go-kart? (BB6-213)
 
Put it in your raptor chassis... wait... never mind

jagged4698 04-06-2006 04:54 PM

Re: 1000cc R1 motor in banshee, sand rail, or go-kart? (MSchu)
 
really wide stance gokart would be sweet as for tires just get some small atv rims/tires... you know the really wide ones

speaking of raptors what do those things sell for? those look like fun.

m3bluegsr 04-06-2006 05:01 PM

Re: 1000cc R1 motor in banshee, sand rail, or go-kart? (jagged4698)
 
go all out... do like a t-rex kart

Joel_MN 04-06-2006 05:50 PM

Re: 1000cc R1 motor in banshee, sand rail, or go-kart? (m3bluegsr)
 
try to find some info on darius240z.com i think. Darius frequents sbfreaks.com and stuntlife.com. He put a bike motor in a custom built go cart, ive seen videos of it...pretty bad ass. He builds cars, bikes, etc... for a hobby i think. He could probably definalty help you out with any of the missing links in your puzzle.

1bar 04-06-2006 08:09 PM

Re: 1000cc R1 motor in banshee, sand rail, or go-kart? (Joel_MN)
 
call up some local colleges ask if you could buy the chassis from a used FSAE car. That would be sweeeet


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EkEli 04-06-2006 08:19 PM

Re: 1000cc R1 motor in banshee, sand rail, or go-kart? (1bar)
 
Sounds like a kick ass project. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/embeer.gif

rjay8604 04-06-2006 11:02 PM

Re: 1000cc R1 motor in banshee, sand rail, or go-kart? (EkEli)
 
My dream. A low, wide tube frame go kart powered by liter+ bike engine.
Super-low ground clearance, F1 car exhaust sound, sequential shifting, ridiculous handling and acceleration = awesome. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

backlash 04-07-2006 12:04 AM

Re: 1000cc R1 motor in banshee, sand rail, or go-kart? (BB6-213)
 
Where would you ride the kart at? Do you have big huge empty parking lots you can take advantage of? That would be so much fun.

Stancel 04-07-2006 07:45 AM

Re: 1000cc R1 motor in banshee, sand rail, or go-kart? (Joel_MN)
 
Darius used a Ducati motor for one of his carts, a 748 if I remember correctly

HT Chaplain 04-07-2006 09:10 AM

Re: 1000cc R1 motor in banshee, sand rail, or go-kart? (BB6-213)
 
my vote is 4 wheeler

D Day 04-07-2006 02:44 PM

Re: 1000cc R1 motor in banshee, sand rail, or go-kart? (HT Chaplin)
 
i say the 4 wheeler. it will be too heavy and way too much power for the go kart. there is a video somewhere around here of some guys in europe with a GSXR 750 motor on a gokart and it was cool and all but they rarely got out of 3rd. just too fast and never had traction. it looked fun as shit and it was always sidways but too impractical. i know that is hard to fathom but the problem with the 750 would be multiplied with the 1000.

when i was is HS my dad and a few friends built a 4 wheeler with a 1000 3 cyl from a new arctic cat snowmobile. that shit was sickeningly fast and it wanted to do wheelies all the time and that was with the rear suspension being extended over a foot.

the go kart would be fun but just too damn unusable. the 4 wheeler can be taken places and used to dust everyone. out to the sand dunes, drag strips, people on your block. anything.

pba110 04-07-2006 02:55 PM

Re: 1000cc R1 motor in banshee, sand rail, or go-kart? (Racer28)
 
i know you have probably seen it before but i couldnt resist..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...rkart

BB6-213 04-07-2006 03:20 PM

I am really thinking on making a banshee, because then I will have a pit vehicle at the track.

D Day 04-07-2006 03:24 PM

Re: (BB6-213)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BB6-213 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am really thinking on making a banshee, because then I will have a pit vehicle at the track.</TD></TR></TABLE> honestly, thats what i would do. at least the power will be relatively managable. and you will be able to dust everyone elses pit bikes.

BB6-213 04-07-2006 05:30 PM

OMG that VID is crazy!!!

ImportAuto99 04-07-2006 05:47 PM

Re: (BB6-213)
 
The power will not be managable in a banshee, or any other 4wheeler. my yzf 450 i cant even keep the front end down in 3rd gear, and that has 1/4 the hp of a 1000cc gixxer motor.


ScareyH22A 04-07-2006 06:36 PM

Re: (Swags04)
 
Championship karts use 125cc engines.. 1000cc is straight red neck. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif Go for it. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

rjay8604 04-07-2006 06:57 PM

Re: (ScareyH22A)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScareyH22A &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Championship karts use 125cc engines.. 1000cc is straight red neck. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif Go for it. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>
I like this guys attitude. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

1bar 04-07-2006 07:09 PM

Re: (rjay8604)
 
http://www.fsae.com/images/usp2005.jpg


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Schools build/design these every year, im sure you could find a used chassis for cheap, assuming its not carbon fiber or anything.

Also they are designed to use 600cc motors so im sure it wouldnt be hard to fit an 1000 in there.

I think in a 4-wheeler you would kill yourself real quick, just imagine turning right or left some what fast, i'm willing to bet it would be fairly easy to flip it.

However, without exstensive engineering or knowledge id imagine it would be real easy to get yourself in troulbe with whatever vehicle you choose to build!

Goodluck

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Goullish 04-07-2006 07:22 PM

Re: (1bar)
 
For the FSAE thing...

While I have seen a couple cars on Ebay and other places, it's very rare. Many schools, including mine, are required by insurance to destroy old vehicles to an irrepairable state. Of the rest, it's customary to give the cars to old team captains from landmark years.

Also, for the cheap part, FSAE cars cost 20k+ to build.

1bar 04-07-2006 07:35 PM

Re: (Goullish)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Goullish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For the FSAE thing...

While I have seen a couple cars on Ebay and other places, it's very rare. Many schools, including mine, are required by insurance to destroy old vehicles to an irrepairable state. Of the rest, it's customary to give the cars to old team captains from landmark years.

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Some good info right there, i was unaware they were not aloud to sell, i guess i figured it would be a good way to finance the next years car.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Goullish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Also, for the cheap part, FSAE cars cost 20k+ to build.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Id firgured a complete car would cost this much , how much for just a chassis/suspension, basically just a rolling chassis?

Do you think an FSAE team would ever build a car for an individual? haha I wouldn't mind paying for a rolling chassis and put an unrestricted motor in.

BB6-213 04-08-2006 11:17 AM

Do any of you guys know of any good magazines or websites where I could look at banshee frames and learn a little more about them so I can decide if this is the optimal route for me, thanks.


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