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92BlackSi 10-12-2004 01:08 PM

Symptoms of a BAD Clutch???
 
Some history first, I bought the car about 30K miles ago, I knew the clutch was slipping slightly at the time when I shifted quickly, the revs woudl hang for a sec then come back down (slipping clutch I assumed)

The other day going to the track I went to do a burnout and held the RPMS around 7K in order to sit there and burnout a little. The car moved very slowly forward at that RPM but the tires were not spinning. I fugred OK the clutch is completely bastardized now.

So I am going to be getting a new clutch but want to make sure that some other things are not giving me some "time to replace clutch" symptoms.

1. The pedal has nearly NO resistance
2. Clutch engages a hair off the ground
3. Clutch pedal often needs some time or help from me to return to the original position (in other words it will stick there)
4. Trouble getting into some gears
5. I think the slave cylinder?? for the clutch (inside the car by the firewall) has a leak, it never affected anything before but I dont know...

Anyone has some thoughts and/or some ways i can try to make sure the clutch is the culprit and not something else?

cnyej1 10-12-2004 01:10 PM

Re: Symptoms of a BAD Clutch??? (92BlackSi)
 
slave cylinder

turbotime 10-12-2004 01:13 PM

you check the hydro clutch fluid? Mine was doing the exact same thing, everyone was saying it was the cylinders, just needed some fluid!

I picked up a bottle of hydro clutch fluid, filled her up, after about 2days clutch was back to good as new!

Deemeetree 10-12-2004 01:17 PM

Re: (turbotime)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbotime &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you check the hydro clutch fluid? Mine was doing the exact same thing, everyone was saying it was the cylinders, just needed some fluid!

I picked up a bottle of hydro clutch fluid, filled her up, after about 2days clutch was back to good as new!</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's Brake Fluid, not Hydraulic Clutch Fluid.

Have you tried bleeing all the air out of the Clutch lines?

1. Have someone crack open the Slave Cylinder bleeder screw.

2. Push down on the Clutch Pedal and leave it down.

3. Close Slave Cylinder bleeder screw.

4. Release Clutch pedal.

Repeat if neccessary to build pressure in the Clutch system.

Check your Clutch Master Cylinder. Look in front of your Clutch pedal. You'll see a"rod" entering a rubber "grommet". Check for any buildup of fluid in that area.

Follow all the Clutch lines from the Clutch Master Cylinder ALL THE WAY to the Slave Cylinder. Check for any leaks.

I had a leaking Clutch Master Cylinder and my Clutch would slip at anything over 5,000 RPM.

turbotime 10-12-2004 01:20 PM

Re: (Dimi)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dimi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's Brake Fluid, not Hydraulic Clutch Fluid.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So your supposed to use brake fluid in your clutch master cylinder? Shite im using hydro clutch fluid, and its workin great http://images.honda-tech.com/set1//smile/emcrook.gif

Deemeetree 10-12-2004 01:24 PM

Re: (turbotime)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbotime &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So your supposed to use brake fluid in your clutch master cylinder? Shite im using hydro clutch fluid, and its workin great http://images.honda-tech.com/set1//smile/emcrook.gif</TD></TR></TABLE>

I actually never heard of Hydraulic Clutch Fluid. Take a pic of the bottle and post it.

graveltravel 10-12-2004 02:41 PM

yeah me either. i think hes confused!
ive always used brake fluid

turbotime 10-12-2004 03:38 PM

http://www.artfunction.com/newpics/fluidfront.jpg
http://www.artfunction.com/newpics/fluidback.jpg

And one for fun:
http://www.artfunction.com/newpics/car.jpg

H.A.R.T b16a1crx 10-12-2004 03:41 PM

Re: (turbotime)
 
cool, clutch fluid!! does it work better than regular brake fluid? https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif

turbotime 10-12-2004 03:43 PM

i dunno how it compares to brake fluid, by i'd assume becuase its clutch fluid it might be a lil better... Saved me the $$ of having to buy a new MC /SC

92BlackSi 10-17-2004 09:48 AM

Re: (Dimi)
 
Ok I checked into things and when I dive under the dash to look at the clutch pedal assembly there is a rod that travels into the the firewall through a rubber grommet. There is a black sick ass fluid leaking from there. Is that whole assembly the clutch master cylinder?

BTW when i try to search it keeps saying search failed anyone have this?

92BlackSi 10-17-2004 09:53 AM

Ok I am pretty positive that the rod going into the firewall is the clutch master cylinder piston. The gooooo https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emsad.gif is leaking from there. New clutch MC needed?

benhatch101 10-17-2004 10:13 AM

dot 3 brake fluid

92BlackSi 10-17-2004 10:27 AM

Re: (benhatch101)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by benhatch101 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dot 3 brake fluid</TD></TR></TABLE> That is the goo right? Doesn't look like DOT3 anymore https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif

blackdelslo 10-17-2004 10:34 AM

Re: (92BlackSi)
 
yep its the clutch master cylinder, that and the gasket comes out to like $100 from hondaautomotiveparts.com
The slave cylinder is the part that is on the tranny.

Vtec92Civic 10-17-2004 10:34 AM

where did you get that hydraulic clutch fluid from? I wana test out a bottle https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif PM me if you can.

BanEL 10-17-2004 11:33 AM

Re: (Vtec92Civic)
 
u use brake fluid

dogfood 10-17-2004 11:43 AM

Re: (92BlackSi)
 
Make sure that the "goo" doesn't touch anything, brake fluid eats paint and pretty much everything it touches. It sounds like the seals in the master are gone. I have a spare master If you want it. 10 over shipping. That might make my opinion seemed biased but I have a new slave as well if that turns out to be the problem. But anyway It doesn't sound like the clutch, it sounds like the clutch isn't getting enough force to hold

D3U1LT 10-17-2004 12:41 PM

Re: Symptoms of a BAD Clutch??? (92BlackSi)
 
Mine was doing the same thing so I checked for leaks in my slave cylinder on the inside and in the engine bay and sure enough........So I replaced it with another and adjusted it to my likening, now its better than ever.

ATS*Mark 10-17-2004 12:49 PM

Re: Symptoms of a BAD Clutch??? (EJ1Racing.tk)
 
i might have to try it.

92BlackSi 10-17-2004 01:49 PM

Re: (dogfood)
 
Thanks for the advice and the offer, I need something ASAP though, going to get a new one i think.

92BlackSi 10-24-2004 10:43 AM

Thanks for all the info, I replaced the clutch MC and everything was fine although the clutch disengaged very high off the ground. Well now, it engages right near the top of the clutch pedal travel, so about 60% of the time I hit the gas from that point the revs shoot up but the car barely accelerates. It seems like huge slipping but wanted to know if adjusting the locknuts on the clutch pedal could help remedy the problem??

92BlackSi 10-24-2004 02:40 PM

bump

TurboTagTeam 10-24-2004 02:47 PM

Re: (92BlackSi)
 
It has to be the slave cylinder cause your clutch wouldnt engage right off the floor if it was fucked up

92BlackSi 10-24-2004 02:51 PM

Re: (TurboTagTeam)
 
Doesn't engage right off the floor, it engages at the top!

"it engages right near the top of the clutch pedal travel"


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