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Old 07-01-2008, 11:02 AM   #1
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Like it says...will it infact void a warranty? I have a 08 Pilot with a HID kit on it. Everything is fine, but just in case something happens..will Honda void the warranty?
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even if it does, its simple enough to just throw the halogens in if you have to take it to the stealership. i cant imagine it would void any warranty though
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Like it says...will it infact void a warranty? I have a 08 Pilot with a HID kit on it. Everything is fine, but just in case something happens..will Honda void the warranty?
Only if the failure was caused by your aftermarket parts. They'd have to prove it with clear and convincing evidence, not just a hunch.

If you install an over-wattage bulb and you damage the lighting relay and/or melt the headlight housing, that's a good example of valid denial of warranty repair for these affected parts.

On the other hand, if your brakes stop working correctly, there is no way in hell they can get away with denying warranty repair based on headlights.
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the man above me speaks the truth... they can only legally void the warranty if they can prove in a court of law that said aftermarket part caused damage...
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Do you have pictures of the pilot with the HID's .......my aunt has one and I'm trying to convince her to buy a set .... Click the image to open in full size. Click the image to open in full size.
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ugh please don't.

HID in halogen housings, especially reflector housings, are nothing but pure unadulterated junk.
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ugh please don't.

HID in halogen housings, especially reflector housings, are nothing but pure unadulterated junk.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.. I respect that. Personally I think mine look good and tasteful..they look stock. I have a 8000k kit so it gives off a slight blue tint, but a 6000k kit will be pure white and really light up the road. I have not gotten any flashes from other passing motorist.
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Dudeliness above speaks the truth, and because this is so often a point a stealership tries to screw folks with any aftermarket parts we keep a copy of the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act on our server. Its there for all to download should they need to show the stealership they know the law and what rights they have.
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.. I respect that. Personally I think mine look good and tasteful..they look stock. I have a 8000k kit so it gives off a slight blue tint, but a 6000k kit will be pure white and really light up the road. I have not gotten any flashes from other passing motorist.
How does 8000K look stock when stock reflector HID's use 4300K? HID in halgoen reflectors glare like hell, and the blue color of 8000K makes it even worse. I had an RSX come up beside me once with a ricer HID kit, and it glared so bad in my rear view that I got behind him and flicked on my bi-xenon projector highs + stock halogen highs.

Oh and 4300K destroys anything 6000K and up in terms of road illumination.
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Honestly it doesnt glare..and yes i do have to admit that a 4300k or a 6000k kit is better for illumination, but the 8000k kit i have illuminates the road enough. Really to be honest. i probably will take them out, cause i do a lot of night driving or at least get 6000k bulbs.
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So 4300k gives the best useable light output..right? So why do they make a 5000k? How much difference in Lumes is that? What about a 6000k? Ive seen 6000k with no blue at all!
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They make them because people buy them, whether its a good product or not(CREAM). Same reason people put giant *** wings or parking poles on their cars. OEM uses 4300k only because it gives the best usable light.
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The only true 6000K HID capsule that I know of (not using any kind of colored glass like the cheap crap) is the Philips Ultinon bulbs. They're fairly rare I think, and expensive as crap (over $200 per bulb). They put out 2400 lumens as compared to 3200 lumens from a standard 4300K bulb.

The reason these were made is so that they would more closely match the color of an older 4300K bulb. That way if one HID bulb goes out, you could just replace that one and still have similar light color temperature from both headlights. Ever see the older Acura TL's running around with one headlight that looks blue and the other one looks much more white? Yeah that person only replaced one bulb with a new 4300K bulb while the older one has color-shifter much farther into the blue spectrum.

But it's stupid to pay that much when you can get a pair of brand new Philips bulbs for around $80 on the internets.

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LOL, even the cheap ones don't use colored glass, as a matter of fact in all my years retrofitting and selling HID I don't even recall seeing any aftermarket 6000k HID bulb with blue tinted glass!
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um yea, they're all over eBay
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But it's stupid to pay that much when you can get a pair of brand new Philips bulbs for around $80 on the internets.
Just type "Brand new Phillips Bulbs" on the Google!
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with colored quartz instead of varied metal halides to make the change in output color?
Can you show me an example, I am really hoping no manufacturer is that bad but it would honestly not surprise me.
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So 4300k gives the best useable light output..right? So why do they make a 5000k? How much difference in Lumes is that? What about a 6000k? Ive seen 6000k with no blue at all!
To sum it all up, you're ignorant regarding HIDs.
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To sum it all up, you're ignorant regarding HIDs.
Thats why I asked questions...its not being ignorant. Im trying to inform my self with other people's experience and information. Isnt that what Honda Tech is for?
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Thats why I asked questions...its not being ignorant. Im trying to inform my self with other people's experience and information. Isnt that what Honda Tech is for?
That's why you search this website rather than starting a new thread
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with colored quartz instead of varied metal halides to make the change in output color?
Can you show me an example, I am really hoping no manufacturer is that bad but it would honestly not surprise me.
Come on man, you really think a company can offer bulbs for $50 per pair in this many colors using only varied salts to produce all these colors? This crap is cheap, and to offer these colors cheaply, colored glass is the way to go.

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The only time I've seen colored or tinted glass on HID pnp bulbs is on 3000K bulbs where they've dipped the bulb in a yellow ion solution to get a yellow color.... Other than that it's just chaning the salts and chemical make up to get the colors (this is why most kits color is more of a speculative than a specific)....

Now colored halogen bulbs do exsist...
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I hate to tell you, but as suspected, you are wrong here. We in fact have all those colors except red and green in stock and the only ones that are filtered are the 3000k, and even some of those come in a type without the filter!
It does not cost Philips, Osram, or GE to much to produce bulbs either, maybe a few buck each at most, what you are really paying for is the R&D that those companies have years invested in and more R&D in their product pipelines. Sure, so aftermarket bulbs beat the cost down even more by manufacturing in countries where human labor costs less than some automated processes, they use "soft" molds, they don't use tooled registeration marks, and their market is huge.
Now, the quality on the hand is highly variable, but no manufacturer I know of to date uses color filtered quartz for anything other than yellow.
Copper chloride adds blue, strontium carbonate and lithium carbonate add red, sodium nitrate adds yellow, barium salts add green.
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