ehansford22

head-is from a b16 del sol-stock valves, itr dual springs and retainers, itr 96 spec camshafts with stock b16 cam gears, aebs intake manifold, b16 throttle body, password jdm whale ***** intake and cone

arp head studs with oem three layer head gasket

oem b16 fuel injectors 240-245cc, aftermarket fpr, fuel rail and gauge, fuel set at 38psi

bottom end-gsr b18c1, stock bore, stock crank, stock rods with arp rod bolts, acura oem bearings, block guard and I am running srp 12:0 high comp pistons

tranny-b16 tranny (non lsd) with a competition stage 1 clutch and pressure plate, stock b16 fly wheel

exhaust-zigen 4-1 header 2.5 outlet into a 2.25 straight pipe exhaust to an apexi muffler

ecu-chipped ecu only running a stock p73 type r basemap at the moment
idle-900
2step-3700
vtec-54-5500
redline-8600
almost all sensors are deleted

im in the break in process as of now. Both motor and clutch. I have about 50 miles on it so far

any advice for a few questions I could not find besides "get a tune" which I will be doing when funds are up

but here it goes.
On cold start up runs extremely rich. Like burning eyes rich
The motor pulls extremely hard but a tad bit sluggish
last but not least my 5500 vtec once it hits it bogs my motor and I just let off the gas

looking forward to comments, remarks, suggestions, concerns, anything you got. thanks!!

Freemananana

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The almost all sensors deleted sticks out to me. I would assume running a GSR map for VTEC would be an issue with a B16A head, but I've been wrong before. I'm pretty sure you want sensors. How is the timing? Being rich could be poor ignition. Check the timing at the crank and the cams. Have you pulled the plugs and looked at them at all?

ehansford22

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a p72 gsr and p73 type r. My timing is dead on with the crank and cams. I've been messing with distributor timing a little. I've only had time to mess with it once I'm home after work. Will pull plugs today and inspect. But about the sensors it's knock sensor, ELD, atmospheric pressure sensor, injector test circuit, o2 open loop and o2 sensor heater, and vtec speed check

Freemananana

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Well, oops! Yeah, it is. You are right about the ECU thing. My point was more along the lines of different cams would effect your VTEC map significantly. I would think your bogging issue would be too much fuel since the Type R definitely put down more HP than the B16A did. But then again, you have a B18 block. Seems like you'd really need a tune, which I know you said you will get. It's hard to say. You have even compression, correct?

ehansford22

Yea it's very confusing. My first real build besides stock motors lol but yes most likely a tune. I haven't had a chance to test compression. I'm hoping the compression is good since it's a 0 mile motor but you never know. I don't own a compression test tool so ill have to wait on that and see if I can borrow from a friend

Freemananana

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You can rent em for free from autozone and the likes. You can actually do the test in the parking lot very easily.

ehansford22

Ok so I just pulled all the plugs. They're all in very well condition. I did notice some oil on top of my pistons. Normal or no? Rechecked my timing. Dead on!! I just replaced my valve cover gasket and spark plug gaskets on my valve cover to be safe not even 5 minutes ago. I also Pulled my vtec solenoid and sprayed that and the screen out with carb clean. Nice and clean now. Have never done so minds well. Will be getting a comp tester tomorrow from a friend and I'll start off there!

ehansford22

Bump 100 plus views. It doesn't hurt to give an input. Thanks again for the ones who do try and help out ��

First.EG

If you have access to a stock gsr ecu I would run that and see how it does. I have pretty much the same setup except the cams and pistons. When I ran on a chipped ecu it ran like poo switched over to a p72 and ran great.

ehansford22

Well did a compression test. Order 1-4 200 198 200 205. Very impressed. Just did my distributor timing. 16 degrees. Everything is perfect. Still believe I'm getting too much fuel cause it still runs very rich. I have only a slight bog in vtec now. It has gotten a lot better but I'm guessing a tune it Is. Any way any input would be greatly appreciated!!!

ehansford22

I appreciate the help. What cams and pistons do you have? But I could give this a shot. I can actually just throw a stock gsr map on my chip and see how it runs. Isn't stock vtec at 48 though. That's not too low for it??

ehansford22

Also I noticed today while doing my dizzy timing. I jumped the service plug so my idle would stay steady. But I noticed 2 long flashes along with a short flash. Code 21 which is something to do with vtec but how is that so when my vtec works it's just not to its full potential? Any input on this would be really appreciated!!!

ehansford22

Am I in the wrong thread or does no one have any input?? Just curious. I thought this site was about helping others. Not to just view posts and hit the back button

Freemananana

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Do you want people to click it and leave a "I don't know" if they don't know? 100 replies with no help is what you'd get. Don't complain.

Anyways, 21 is usually a wiring issue. You should google 'troubleshooting VTEC solenoid' and you will find some factory service manual pics. Pretty easy to fix. I had the same issue for awhile. Ended up having a dead pressure switch because it had infinite resistance, AKA broken inside somewhere.

What are you tuning/writing the chip with? Crome? I've seen Crome give weird errors before. 4800 is fine. My set up runs VTEC at 4800 and 5500 at low loads. So at WOT it engages earlier and I can cruise on low cams on the highway.

Check your fuel pressure. What kind of injectors are you running? Peak hold? Or saturated? I'm pretty sure B16s often ran peak and hold.

ehansford22

Lol no but coming up on 300 views I could of at least got more input from others besides yourself and the other person. But I do appreciate your help bro. No complaints. I will be checking wiring once I get home from work. I like to just gather as much info as possible so I have a head start before I get home so I can just tackle the problems. I do have the obd1 vtec trouble shoot diagram up and ready to go. But yes I have chrome for tuning. I have oem obd2 b16 injectors which I just looked up and believe to be saturated cause there newer. But my fuel pressure is at 38psi

ehansford22

So my black and blue pressure switch down to my the orange and blue d6 pin to my Ecu had continuity. Although the black ground wire did not so I rewired it to the thermostat housing. That's all good. My vtec solenoid was perfect as well. Motor does not bog anymore but vtec full throttle for some reason cracks at 52ish when I have it set at 55. from 52-6000 grand it bogs but picks up at 6. So I'm thinking of switching my vtec to 6 grand and see what happens. What do you guys think. Any input would be appreciated!!

First.EG

Stock b16a cams and Jdm p73 pistons. A stock ecu will always run better then a stock map.

m90polk1

Did you say you o2 sensor heater circuit is disabled...if i read that correctly than that can definetly be your gas issue on startup especially cold start as far as running rich

ehansford22

Gotcha. Will have to enable that and see what happens

ehansford22

Well got my basemap from xenocron today. Pretty nervous as to why my car has no power and has bucking and jerking on acceleration. Almost to the point where it sounds like I'm on two cylinders. Is it my stock dizzy timing. 16 degrees. Would like to get this problem resolved asap as I miss driving my civ for the past 2 or 3 months. Thanks everyone who helps!

n*werk

not trying to burst your bubble, but you answer your own question. Get a real dyno tune. It should correct your fuel problem that your crying about and your lack of power. Find a good tuner and he should guide you in the right direction. Your asking us to give you answer to something that we can't see or don't know cause there can be many possibilities why you have the code 21, wiring or bad vtec solenoid or etc etc... calm down about people not giving their .02

ehansford22

thanks
My code 21 is fixed btw

ehansford22

Also my fuel problem was all my sensors disabled. I Enabled all of them besides knock sensor. Fuel smells gone. That's why I'm asking for advice and help. So no need for the little comments. I'm asking for help yes over the internet but I'm certainly not crying over a gas smell lol so thanks again....for nothing but the same garbage answer "get a tune" instead of some helpful advice. A honda fan to another. It's w.e though. Can't expect much from others these days

m90polk1

Well i know they gave you a basemap but the thing is its only a basemap its just to get your car running long enough to break it in so you can go get it dyno tuned. I would personally get it tuned professionally by a shop which should help with a lot of your issues. I know you said you fixed code 21, do you have anymore check engine lights on at all?

ehansford22

Hey mans thanks for the response. As of of now no more check engine lights. But Yea the base map didn't even run my car lol I'm deff going to get it tuned. Just saving up the money for now. I went ahead and bought hondata s300 and a aem wide band. Right now I have a type r base map but it is running topped out lean on my gauge. So I bought a set of rc 550cc injectors and waiting on my Walbro 255 pump. Once I get those installed I'm gonna see what happens with the leaning out. I lack experience with tuning so I don't know how to bump up fuel with s300 lol