h2b into Del sol
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h2b into Del sol
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specific instructions are located here http://www.quartersportsdrag.com
What you need for this swap:
H22 or F22 longblock and its components
H or F series Exhaust manifold (will have to be modified to connect to existing exhaust piping)
B-series transmission
H2b Adapter plate Kit (www.quartersportsdrag.com)
B-series axels
B-series mounts with polyurethane inserts or aftermarket B series mounts
B-series starter
B-series slave cylinder
B-series clutch
B-series ALUMINUM flywheel
4 OEM Honda alignment dowels
NOT REQUIRED but definately something to consider:
-Better cooling system, either an aftermarket aluminum dual core radiator or a del sol VTEC radiator will work
-Aftermarket mounts for a b-series motor
-Using a chipped p28 instead of a prelude's p13; P28 does not look for a knock sensor or egr system which I hear is a major pain in the *** to do up
-Removal of balance shafts (i did not do this but many other H2b'ers have) will require a freeze plug to keep oil from spurting out. They can be found here: http://www.kaizenspeed.com/.
-Alternator relocation kit. My alternator did NOT fit in so I had to get a relocation kit so it would work. http://www.explicitspeedperformance.net offers many different options and has kits for OEM spec or for those who have removed their balance shafts.
-Machining off the Power steering pulley. To create a bit more room, I had the P/S pulley machined off of my crank pulley. I used this machine shop Master Grinding Services Inc.
Just thought I'd post some pics up of how my install went for all who are contemplating this swap
Aluminum Flywheel with the aluminum spacer that is included in the kit.
exedy clutch goes on as if it were just a plain old b series swap
The plate is attached first with 4 countersunk bolts that you need an 8mm hex to tighten. They're on the top and right side of the plate (2 and 2)
The tranny was a bit of a pain in the *** to put on with the 2 dowel pins in the block and 2 in the tranny... This part is definately a two person job. One person held the block and guided the tranny on making sure the bolt for the starter gets lined up while the other used their big strong muscles to lift the tranny up and push it on...
Ah, everyone's favorite part: grindin down the backside of your motor... I was surprised by how far in you actually have to grind, almost right down to the oil pan bolts... Don't forget your gasket sealer afterwards
A shot of the back of the motor with the intermediate shaft and the adapter bracket for it..
I decided to keep the balance shaft assembly in tact but removed the belt and tensioner. The lower timing belt cover was reinstalled with a slight trim on the top. The power steering pulley has to be machined down so it'll fit. (will get pics of machines crank pulley as soon as i get it back)
Where the frame rail had to be bashed in... Doesn't look too bad. This project is good for anyone who needs to get out some pent up aggression
Edit: as of 7/5 had to take the motor back out so we decided to create a little more clearance
and let's not forget my knockin motor
Modified by amy at 10:20 PM 11/3/2007
specific instructions are located here http://www.quartersportsdrag.com
What you need for this swap:
H22 or F22 longblock and its components
H or F series Exhaust manifold (will have to be modified to connect to existing exhaust piping)
B-series transmission
H2b Adapter plate Kit (www.quartersportsdrag.com)
B-series axels
B-series mounts with polyurethane inserts or aftermarket B series mounts
B-series starter
B-series slave cylinder
B-series clutch
B-series ALUMINUM flywheel
4 OEM Honda alignment dowels
NOT REQUIRED but definately something to consider:
-Better cooling system, either an aftermarket aluminum dual core radiator or a del sol VTEC radiator will work
-Aftermarket mounts for a b-series motor
-Using a chipped p28 instead of a prelude's p13; P28 does not look for a knock sensor or egr system which I hear is a major pain in the *** to do up
-Removal of balance shafts (i did not do this but many other H2b'ers have) will require a freeze plug to keep oil from spurting out. They can be found here: http://www.kaizenspeed.com/.
-Alternator relocation kit. My alternator did NOT fit in so I had to get a relocation kit so it would work. http://www.explicitspeedperformance.net offers many different options and has kits for OEM spec or for those who have removed their balance shafts.
-Machining off the Power steering pulley. To create a bit more room, I had the P/S pulley machined off of my crank pulley. I used this machine shop Master Grinding Services Inc.
Just thought I'd post some pics up of how my install went for all who are contemplating this swap
Aluminum Flywheel with the aluminum spacer that is included in the kit.
exedy clutch goes on as if it were just a plain old b series swap
The plate is attached first with 4 countersunk bolts that you need an 8mm hex to tighten. They're on the top and right side of the plate (2 and 2)
The tranny was a bit of a pain in the *** to put on with the 2 dowel pins in the block and 2 in the tranny... This part is definately a two person job. One person held the block and guided the tranny on making sure the bolt for the starter gets lined up while the other used their big strong muscles to lift the tranny up and push it on...
Ah, everyone's favorite part: grindin down the backside of your motor... I was surprised by how far in you actually have to grind, almost right down to the oil pan bolts... Don't forget your gasket sealer afterwards
A shot of the back of the motor with the intermediate shaft and the adapter bracket for it..
I decided to keep the balance shaft assembly in tact but removed the belt and tensioner. The lower timing belt cover was reinstalled with a slight trim on the top. The power steering pulley has to be machined down so it'll fit. (will get pics of machines crank pulley as soon as i get it back)
Where the frame rail had to be bashed in... Doesn't look too bad. This project is good for anyone who needs to get out some pent up aggression
Edit: as of 7/5 had to take the motor back out so we decided to create a little more clearance
and let's not forget my knockin motor
Modified by amy at 10:20 PM 11/3/2007
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Re: (vtecspeed1320)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecspeed1320 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats awesome for both things, youll have to stop back and check out my h2b turbo build at the end of the summer. </TD></TR></TABLE>
nice
I hope to have some new pics as of Thursday with more progress
nice
I hope to have some new pics as of Thursday with more progress
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Re: h2b into Del sol (thahuhstunna)
I've been waiting for these updates for some time. Glad to see it coming along. Cant wait to see numbers and track times. Getting ready to start pieceing together my kit.
What flywheel and clutch setup are you using?
What flywheel and clutch setup are you using?
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Looks good, so the block just has to be shaved to clear the halfshaft assembly?
I am also currently trying to slap an H2B assembly together, but it is taking quite longer than I thought it would, you know, budgets and all. Got the trans(JDM B16 with Kazz), Clutch(CC stage 3), and flywheel(Fidanza), its a start I suppose.
Should get an H2B rollcall going to see how many are running the setup, what times they are running etc.
I am also currently trying to slap an H2B assembly together, but it is taking quite longer than I thought it would, you know, budgets and all. Got the trans(JDM B16 with Kazz), Clutch(CC stage 3), and flywheel(Fidanza), its a start I suppose.
Should get an H2B rollcall going to see how many are running the setup, what times they are running etc.
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Re: h2b into Del sol (Gold DA9)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gold DA9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've been waiting for these updates for some time. Glad to see it coming along. Cant wait to see numbers and track times. Getting ready to start pieceing together my kit.
What flywheel and clutch setup are you using?</TD></TR></TABLE>
exedy stage 1 clutch and i'll have to double check on my flywheel, it was a donation from my boyfriend who upgraded
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dxcoupe. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow, looking good!
You should fill/get inserts for the driver side mount so it doesn't move to much, skunked had that problem.
You're keeping powersteering?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yea i have the inserts, they still have to go in... I'm going to see how it is with them and if it doesn't feel right for me I'll probably go with mounts from Hasport or Hcp
and no Definately not utilizing P/S, my car never came with it from the factory and I'm not about to add it now
What flywheel and clutch setup are you using?</TD></TR></TABLE>
exedy stage 1 clutch and i'll have to double check on my flywheel, it was a donation from my boyfriend who upgraded
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dxcoupe. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow, looking good!
You should fill/get inserts for the driver side mount so it doesn't move to much, skunked had that problem.
You're keeping powersteering?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yea i have the inserts, they still have to go in... I'm going to see how it is with them and if it doesn't feel right for me I'll probably go with mounts from Hasport or Hcp
and no Definately not utilizing P/S, my car never came with it from the factory and I'm not about to add it now
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Re: h2b into Del sol (skunked)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skunked »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looks great Amy, I'm digg'n the valve cover.
PS-Put the inserts in!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha the VC is no longer that color
PS-Put the inserts in!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha the VC is no longer that color
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Re: h2b into Del sol (amy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by amy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
haha the VC is no longer that color
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damn girls!!!!
haha the VC is no longer that color
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damn girls!!!!
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Re: h2b into Del sol
Definitely looks great!
I've had my long block for ages and am so anxious to get my project rolling..
Too bad Im a broke college kid with no dough, haa.
Cant wait to see some numbers and 1/4 mile times.. Great Work!
PS - How much did you pay for the kit from quartersports?
I've had my long block for ages and am so anxious to get my project rolling..
Too bad Im a broke college kid with no dough, haa.
Cant wait to see some numbers and 1/4 mile times.. Great Work!
PS - How much did you pay for the kit from quartersports?
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........Should get an H2B rollcall going to see how many are running the setup, what times they are running etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here is my setup. Almost ready for NHRA in Las Vegas!!! See you guys there!!!
........Should get an H2B rollcall going to see how many are running the setup, what times they are running etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here is my setup. Almost ready for NHRA in Las Vegas!!! See you guys there!!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AllMotorRandy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Here is my setup. Almost ready for NHRA in Las Vegas!!! See you guys there!!!
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do you have a shot of the hood closed? would like to see that.
Here is my setup. Almost ready for NHRA in Las Vegas!!! See you guys there!!!
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do you have a shot of the hood closed? would like to see that.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AllMotorRandy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is my setup. Almost ready for NHRA in Las Vegas!!! See you guys there!!!
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nice specs of the set up, and how did you close the hood, heard this is a problem with H2B's
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nice specs of the set up, and how did you close the hood, heard this is a problem with H2B's
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skunked »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1" spacers guys, 1" spacers......I tell everyone this everyday it seems.
2.2EG has posted pics of this as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>it looks more like 1/2" on his car home depot right Matt?
2.2EG has posted pics of this as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>it looks more like 1/2" on his car home depot right Matt?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2FAST4U831 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it looks more like 1/2" on his car home depot right Matt? </TD></TR></TABLE>
it depends on the type of hood and MAP location, anywhere from 1/2" to 1" spacers.
Home Depot or lowes sells aluminum stand-offs that work perfect.
it depends on the type of hood and MAP location, anywhere from 1/2" to 1" spacers.
Home Depot or lowes sells aluminum stand-offs that work perfect.