Jakester9500

Hey guys. I am looking to put this http://www.ebay.com/itm/301185882341...84.m1423.l2649 obd2 H22 swap in my 2000 Civic EX. There has been a lot said on this swap and seems to be more on it for the 92-95 Civics. I’m trying to clear up a lot of my questions and things I am blind too that I might run into doing this swap. I’ve searched the threads, I’ve searched the internet, and there is a lot of back forth. So here are my concerns/ questions and things I’d like verified.

1. Is this motor a direct swap in? Meaning I use everything that is being sold with this swap to just drop into my car? No wiring issues on plugging my cabin harness to this ecu, or do I use my EX harness and hack it all up to get it to work?

2. I think this is pretty much summed up. I use 90-93 accord half shaft/ intermediate shaft and 90-91 Integra axels.

3. I read somewhere that you have to cut the rear mount on the car and drill a new hole? Not too sure. I figured hasport mounts would be a direct bolt in.

4. Rear trans t bracket, Do I use the one that the motor comes with or do I need 90-97 Accord DX or LX t bracket?

5. Do I really need to delete power steering and A/C. I know there is a bracket out there for the A/C but I’m pretty sure that’s discontinued.

I think this is all I have. Am I missing anything? I’m just looking to have all the loose ends together and throw this swap in on the weekend.

Thanks for all your help.

tony_2018

I think you should do some research as civic's were never found, in any country, to be equip with an h22a engine. So NO ITS NOT A DIRECT SWAP BECAUSE IT REQUIRES CUSTOM MOUNTS.

Jakester9500

I know it needs mounts (that's the easy part), and I know the shifter needs cut out for the shifter cables and mounting. I know the suspension needs upgraded, radiator, braking system. So I do have a clue what I'm talking about and I have done several hours of research over numerous days.

grumblemarc

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Several hours? Do some research instead of asking us to do it for you. Frankly everything you're asking could be found via a search.

Jakester9500

It sure would be nice to see a technical forum be something along the lines of technical help rather than pompus asshats always telling people to search.
Seriously, I have searched. I've read threads upon threads and I still have the five aforementioned questions. What is the sense in there being a forum for people to get help if all people do is tell them to look elsewhere?

grumblemarc

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The tech is already there. For instance; read the FAQs. No sense in rehashing old tired information over and over.

Sonin Fury

iTrader: (11)

There is a FAQ at the top of the forum just for H22 swaps.

I have read through and it does leave some questions in my mind. It is a little more geared to EG chassis, but most of the info you need is in there.

The OBD2A-B difference can be a little worrisome.

I am specifically looking into the Type S H22 and trying to figure out if there are any installation complications, but I dont dare ask on this forum obviously lol

HiProfile

You're missing a lot.

1) Big problem. JDM = wiring is routed differently. You'll only be using that H22 harness for it's plugs, putting them onto your Civic harness as needed. You'll also have to extend 2 sensor wires from the distributor location on the Civic harness to the sensors on that H22's oil pump (usually throws a code) or get an OBD1 H22 distributor since it haS those sensors in the distributor instead of at the crankshaft. The 97+ H22 ecu also had an immobilizer. You'll have to find a 96 H22 ecu or solder in a xenocron.com immobilizer delete.

2) That axle combo sorta works. you need to have to hyrbidize accord & integra axles to make a single axle that's a bit shorter, unless you keep the car at stock ride height. Any drop, even half an inch, will lead to issues with your listed axle combi.

3) Most mounts are direct bolt-on, but you'll have to ask each specific mount manufacturer. Most current mount kits require you to remove your stock passenger tranny mounts/ears on the chassis to bolt on a new bracket.

4) Prelude bracket

5) The P/S and A/C pumps for a 96-00 Civic will NOT fit on that H22, and the H22 pumps will not connect to your Civic's hoses. You have to get custom hoses made for the H22 pumps or custom brackets to fit your Civic pumps onto the H22.


Unless you've done a few other "hybrid" swaps, this will NOT be a weekend swap. Even a full 99-00 Si b16 swap won't be a one weekend swap unless you've already done it a few times already. You'd really want an OBD1 H22 with ecu & harness, that will be the easiest way to go. It will obviously never pass emissions since your chassis is obd2.

A much easier way to go is H2B. The trans will fit like it was intended (99-00 Si) and not cutting/welding needed since it uses the same type of mechanical linkage which bolts directly on. Same with the axles, 99-00 Si axles work like stock. The clutch will also be intended for the car, 99-00 SI, and same with the flywheel if you use the right kit. There will be the same amount of wiring, and you may have belt clearance issues depending on the kit you choose. The link below is for the plateless H2B method. I've done it to two of my own cars and helped make brackets for 2 other friend's cars that are already on the road. It has a all the benefits of both type of H22 swaps with much less negatives than either.

http://www.d-series.org/forums/diy-f...w-o-plate.html