Anyone read the new turbo mag yet? k24 crank + h22 pistons, rods = 2.4 f20c
07-08-2006, 08:53 PM
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Anyone read the new turbo mag yet? k24 crank + h22 pistons, rods = 2.4 f20c
They had an article about stroking an f22c to a 2.4 liter.
It was pretty interesting. Pretty much they just increased the stroke instead of changing the bore.
The mechanic is using a k24 crank with some slight modifications to it for the s2000 flywheel. Rods from an h22 were trimed 4mm and bolted to the crank. They used h22 pistons because they are the same bore as us. The oil squirters were sealed for somereason, but they never said how they re routed that up.
All said and done they had a cheap stroker for the s2000. I dont remember reading anything about what kind of power it can throw down, but im not expecting it to be anything great or better.
Anyone else see this? Opinions about it?
It was pretty interesting. Pretty much they just increased the stroke instead of changing the bore.
The mechanic is using a k24 crank with some slight modifications to it for the s2000 flywheel. Rods from an h22 were trimed 4mm and bolted to the crank. They used h22 pistons because they are the same bore as us. The oil squirters were sealed for somereason, but they never said how they re routed that up.
All said and done they had a cheap stroker for the s2000. I dont remember reading anything about what kind of power it can throw down, but im not expecting it to be anything great or better.
Anyone else see this? Opinions about it?
07-08-2006, 09:25 PM
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Re: Anyone read the new turbo mag yet? k24 crank + h22 pistons, rods = 2.4 f20c (FR-MOB: Francesco)
I haven't seen it, but, what is the definition of a "cheap" stroker kit and what is that compared to?
07-08-2006, 11:21 PM
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Re: Anyone read the new turbo mag yet? k24 crank + h22 pistons, rods = 2.4 f20c (LBBP R)
theres already been a thread about this. something to the extent of RSR drift s2000 has this or something. i think the guy from inline pro knows massive amounts about doing this if i remember correctly.
07-09-2006, 12:33 AM
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Re: Anyone read the new turbo mag yet? k24 crank + h22 pistons, rods = 2.4 f20c (Hondageek)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hondageek »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theres already been a thread about this. something to the extent of RSR drift s2000 has this or something. i think the guy from inline pro knows massive amounts about doing this if i remember correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I believe its AEM's s2000 drift car thats done this.
P.S
On a lighter note, Stephen Papadakis is Gay.
Alex Phifer Rules, hahaha
I believe its AEM's s2000 drift car thats done this.
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On a lighter note, Stephen Papadakis is Gay.
Alex Phifer Rules, hahaha
07-09-2006, 12:38 AM
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Re: Anyone read the new turbo mag yet? k24 crank + h22 pistons, rods = 2.4 f20c (OBSeRiouso)
read it today very cool. I wonder what kind of numbers it will put down.
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07-09-2006, 09:15 AM
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Re: (kane.s2k)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kane.s2k »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I haven't read the article but I do know that it's not a bolt on affair.</TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly.
i suggest you read it though. they have pictures for a step by step install, but they hide so much information.
exactly.
i suggest you read it though. they have pictures for a step by step install, but they hide so much information.
07-09-2006, 09:17 AM
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Re: Anyone read the new turbo mag yet? k24 crank + h22 pistons, rods = 2.4 f20c (SuzukaBlueAP2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuzukaBlueAP2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I haven't seen it, but, what is the definition of a "cheap" stroker kit and what is that compared to?</TD></TR></TABLE>
well pretty much a JDM stroker kit is above 4g's and the Inline pro 2.5 is in that area also.
Cheap is refering to the ease and availibility for the OEM parts
Im not sure what a k24 crank cost, or h22 internals, but im sure its alot cheaper than a kit.
I would bet the most expensive part of this is the labor for the build.
well pretty much a JDM stroker kit is above 4g's and the Inline pro 2.5 is in that area also.
Cheap is refering to the ease and availibility for the OEM parts
Im not sure what a k24 crank cost, or h22 internals, but im sure its alot cheaper than a kit.
I would bet the most expensive part of this is the labor for the build.
07-09-2006, 09:20 AM
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Re: Anyone read the new turbo mag yet? k24 crank + h22 pistons, rods = 2.4 f20c (FR-MOB: Francesco)
Yeah...most any builds that are overhauling the engine internals are costly due to labor and possible machine work.
I'll have to grab a magazine and read it. If all this is is a matter of getting these parts and installing, without milling, grinding or other machine work, or any other hidden tricks for that matter, then it might be a sweet setup.
I'd be interested in what the R/S ratio becomes after using the K-series crank and the shortening of the H-series rods.
well, off to the store to get a magazine...
I'll have to grab a magazine and read it. If all this is is a matter of getting these parts and installing, without milling, grinding or other machine work, or any other hidden tricks for that matter, then it might be a sweet setup.
I'd be interested in what the R/S ratio becomes after using the K-series crank and the shortening of the H-series rods.
well, off to the store to get a magazine...
07-09-2006, 09:24 AM
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Re: Anyone read the new turbo mag yet? k24 crank + h22 pistons, rods = 2.4 f20c (SuzukaBlueAP2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuzukaBlueAP2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'll have to grab a magazine and read it. If all this is is a matter of getting these parts and installing, without milling, grinding or other machine work, or any other hidden tricks for that matter, then it might be a sweet setup.
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but their is machining involved. you have to shave 4mm (2mm each side) on the h22 rods. you also have to modify the crank shaft.
I'll have to grab a magazine and read it. If all this is is a matter of getting these parts and installing, without milling, grinding or other machine work, or any other hidden tricks for that matter, then it might be a sweet setup.
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but their is machining involved. you have to shave 4mm (2mm each side) on the h22 rods. you also have to modify the crank shaft.
07-09-2006, 09:26 AM
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Re: Anyone read the new turbo mag yet? k24 crank + h22 pistons, rods = 2.4 f20c (FR-MOB: Francesco)
LOL you know...after submitting that I thought, DOH!
Hopefully no milling of the block, right?
Hopefully no milling of the block, right?
07-09-2006, 09:47 AM
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Re: Anyone read the new turbo mag yet? k24 crank + h22 pistons, rods = 2.4 f20c (SuzukaBlueAP2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuzukaBlueAP2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL you know...after submitting that I thought, DOH!
Hopefully no milling of the block, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
the block can stay as is.
i think if i was to re build my motor i would want my block worked on for piece of mind. personally if im going to take this motor apart its going to be bored out
Hopefully no milling of the block, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
the block can stay as is.
i think if i was to re build my motor i would want my block worked on for piece of mind. personally if im going to take this motor apart its going to be bored out
07-09-2006, 09:51 AM
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Re: Anyone read the new turbo mag yet? k24 crank + h22 pistons, rods = 2.4 f20c (SuzukaBlueAP2)
I wonder if this is what Top Fuel did to stroke the F20C in their time attack car?
07-09-2006, 10:26 AM
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Re: Anyone read the new turbo mag yet? k24 crank + h22 pistons, rods = 2.4 f20c (ITRbroham)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITRbroham »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wonder if this is what Top Fuel did to stroke the F20C in their time attack car?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im not sure.
The article said that the mechanic doing this is one of the techs for a drift crew, but i forget what team he is a mechanic for.
The way i see it is, the JDM companies work togethor sometimes and they do have the money for R/D. They might possibly have done this.
Im not sure.
The article said that the mechanic doing this is one of the techs for a drift crew, but i forget what team he is a mechanic for.
The way i see it is, the JDM companies work togethor sometimes and they do have the money for R/D. They might possibly have done this.
07-09-2006, 11:39 AM
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Re: Anyone read the new turbo mag yet? k24 crank + h22 pistons, rods = 2.4 f20c (FR-MOB: Francesco)
Very interesting.
That’s one thing cool about Honda, how parts are so interchangeable
That’s one thing cool about Honda, how parts are so interchangeable
07-09-2006, 11:43 AM
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Re: Anyone read the new turbo mag yet? k24 crank + h22 pistons, rods = 2.4 f20c (FR-MOB: Francesco)
Forgetting a car called the Amuse GT1? Same crank, but they said "custom" rods and pistons.
07-09-2006, 12:52 PM
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Re: Anyone read the new turbo mag yet? k24 crank + h22 pistons, rods = 2.4 f20c (TomTomTuning)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TomTomTuning »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Very interesting.
That’s one thing cool about Honda, how parts are so interchangeable
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i think its ghey, because theives suck
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: Projekt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Forgetting a car called the Amuse GT1? Same crank, but they said "custom" rods and pistons.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes i did forget, but it all makes sense now.
That’s one thing cool about Honda, how parts are so interchangeable
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i think its ghey, because theives suck
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: Projekt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Forgetting a car called the Amuse GT1? Same crank, but they said "custom" rods and pistons.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes i did forget, but it all makes sense now.
07-10-2006, 05:21 AM
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Re: Anyone read the new turbo mag yet? k24 crank + h22 pistons, rods = 2.4 f20c (JDM knowledge)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM knowledge »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what about the valve clearance and the redline? Im guessing it redlines to about 8k. anything said about that?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I want to say their using an f20c head to up the redline, but im not 100% sure.
I want to say their using an f20c head to up the redline, but im not 100% sure.
07-10-2006, 06:12 AM
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According to what I'm finding, H22 pistons are about $33 each. I went with the K24A2 crank, about $600. If we can use another K24 crank, it would probably be less. So this definitely looks cheaper than the InlinePro kit.
07-10-2006, 04:43 PM
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i have questions about this setup...if u do this..what about the compression ratio and did anybody consider the weight the crank, piston, and rods?
the worst part is that i dont think you can use a forged piston and aftermarket rod on a stock f20c block becuase of the cylinder walls like the h22 block
the worst part is that i dont think you can use a forged piston and aftermarket rod on a stock f20c block becuase of the cylinder walls like the h22 block
07-10-2006, 06:54 PM
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Re: (Project SSAP1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Project SSAP1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have questions about this setup...if u do this..what about the compression ratio and did anybody consider the weight the crank, piston, and rods?
the worst part is that i dont think you can use a forged piston and aftermarket rod on a stock f20c block becuase of the cylinder walls like the h22 block </TD></TR></TABLE>
like ive been saying, they are hiding alot of information.
the worst part is that i dont think you can use a forged piston and aftermarket rod on a stock f20c block becuase of the cylinder walls like the h22 block </TD></TR></TABLE>
like ive been saying, they are hiding alot of information.
07-11-2006, 10:45 AM
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Re: (Project SSAP1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Project SSAP1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the worst part is that i dont think you can use a forged piston and aftermarket rod on a stock f20c block becuase of the cylinder walls like the h22 block </TD></TR></TABLE>
From what I've seen posted on here they are using stock h22 pistons which are frm friendly like the s2k piston. Rods have nothing to do with what type of cylinder wall you have. Most/all people that go with aftermarket forged pistons sleeve their motors with iron sleeves which aren't as sensitive as the h22 or f20-22 sleeves. hth
ps-I also remember me mentioning this in the 2.5 liter thread...
From what I've seen posted on here they are using stock h22 pistons which are frm friendly like the s2k piston. Rods have nothing to do with what type of cylinder wall you have. Most/all people that go with aftermarket forged pistons sleeve their motors with iron sleeves which aren't as sensitive as the h22 or f20-22 sleeves. hth
ps-I also remember me mentioning this in the 2.5 liter thread...