Write-up: 4g prelude manual rack conversion
02-06-2006, 06:12 PM
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Re: Write-up: 4g prelude manual rack conversion (mgags7)
If someone wouldnt mind telling all of us 5th gen guys what parts we need to remove then maybe we including myself can stop asking questions lol.
02-06-2006, 07:15 PM
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great writeup guys. Just curious how the car is doin and any current comments etc? Also has the first post re-edited with the new comments that I have seen come up in this thread? thanks again!
02-06-2006, 07:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by roller3804 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But it is also much more dangerous to have no power steering at highspeeds. It is alot more difficult to counteract steering if you are lossing control with no power steering.</TD></TR></TABLE>
over 5mph, the car is in no way hard to steer, nothing that cant be done with one hand and a minimal amount of force
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by roller3804 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The pros of taking out PS are not worth the effort and do not out weight the cons and HP gain from no pulled weight on the engine is minimal. I had an RX7 no p/s. I would rather have it after driving without it for awhile. Id take AC out before PS.</TD></TR></TABLE>
who are you to say whether its worth it to me or not? this thread was not created as a discussion of whether it was worth it, its information on how....if you wanna discuss this with me, call up oprah or rikki lake and see if they have a time slot open
oh and how about i took out AC AND PS....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silver Surfer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so other than grease and basic tools.......is there anything else needed...namely parts or special tool needed?</TD></TR></TABLE>
you need something to get the inner tie rods off, that will be a 22mm wrench to hold the rack, which you better do, or you could ruin it, and then either some channel locks, a crecscent wrench or a 36mm wrench to loosen the joint
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BB6-213 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If someone wouldnt mind telling all of us 5th gen guys what parts we need to remove then maybe we including myself can stop asking questions lol.
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take off cylinder lines A&B and plug their holes
take off the input lines and plug their holes
take the seal off the piston
thats it, yours is more simple....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -NA-VTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">great writeup guys. Just curious how the car is doin and any current comments etc? Also has the first post re-edited with the new comments that I have seen come up in this thread? thanks again! </TD></TR></TABLE>
my car is doing great, i just finished putting the cylinder back in, so i will be editing that part out....also i think it will be easier to just take off the inner tie rods while the rack is still on the car, that way you dont even have to take the wheels or ball joints off, and it will be easier to get the rack out....
over 5mph, the car is in no way hard to steer, nothing that cant be done with one hand and a minimal amount of force
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by roller3804 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The pros of taking out PS are not worth the effort and do not out weight the cons and HP gain from no pulled weight on the engine is minimal. I had an RX7 no p/s. I would rather have it after driving without it for awhile. Id take AC out before PS.</TD></TR></TABLE>
who are you to say whether its worth it to me or not? this thread was not created as a discussion of whether it was worth it, its information on how....if you wanna discuss this with me, call up oprah or rikki lake and see if they have a time slot open
oh and how about i took out AC AND PS....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silver Surfer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so other than grease and basic tools.......is there anything else needed...namely parts or special tool needed?</TD></TR></TABLE>
you need something to get the inner tie rods off, that will be a 22mm wrench to hold the rack, which you better do, or you could ruin it, and then either some channel locks, a crecscent wrench or a 36mm wrench to loosen the joint
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BB6-213 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If someone wouldnt mind telling all of us 5th gen guys what parts we need to remove then maybe we including myself can stop asking questions lol.
</TD></TR></TABLE>take off cylinder lines A&B and plug their holes
take off the input lines and plug their holes
take the seal off the piston
thats it, yours is more simple....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -NA-VTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">great writeup guys. Just curious how the car is doin and any current comments etc? Also has the first post re-edited with the new comments that I have seen come up in this thread? thanks again! </TD></TR></TABLE>
my car is doing great, i just finished putting the cylinder back in, so i will be editing that part out....also i think it will be easier to just take off the inner tie rods while the rack is still on the car, that way you dont even have to take the wheels or ball joints off, and it will be easier to get the rack out....
02-06-2006, 07:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TOP END MS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Many racers do use powersteering .. (but not drag racers)
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Many road racer on this board have removed it as well. Many of the civic/teg guys just get the manual rack, but we don't have that option for a reasonable amount of money.
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Steering is more precise. very true. But it is also much more dangerous to have no power steering at highspeeds. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Power steering's effect decreases with speed so this is in no way true. The only place it may be an issue is parking lot navigation, or parking.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by roller3804 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It is alot more difficult to counteract steering if you are lossing control with no power steering.
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The point of the modification to many, including myself, is that you can feel more accurately where the point of control will be lost due to the increased road feel, and from that you can push the car harder.
As far as the power increase, while it is a plus, I could careless. My motor is fully built, and turbo. I can easily make the ~8 extra hp via tuning, or turning up the boost a little if I was doing it for the power.
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Many road racer on this board have removed it as well. Many of the civic/teg guys just get the manual rack, but we don't have that option for a reasonable amount of money.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by roller3804 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Steering is more precise. very true. But it is also much more dangerous to have no power steering at highspeeds. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Power steering's effect decreases with speed so this is in no way true. The only place it may be an issue is parking lot navigation, or parking.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by roller3804 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It is alot more difficult to counteract steering if you are lossing control with no power steering.
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The point of the modification to many, including myself, is that you can feel more accurately where the point of control will be lost due to the increased road feel, and from that you can push the car harder.
As far as the power increase, while it is a plus, I could careless. My motor is fully built, and turbo. I can easily make the ~8 extra hp via tuning, or turning up the boost a little if I was doing it for the power.
02-06-2006, 08:37 PM
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nicely put matt-from another person who drives a car with a manual rack and also ACTUALLY KNOWS how they handle and isnt full of contorted bullshit....you guys should really consider this..it is so close in feel to my manual steering civic..just a little tighter b/c of the ~1000 lbs weight diff in the cars..
oh btw manual steering is safer at higher speeds..so all you weak arms naysayers can **** off
oh btw manual steering is safer at higher speeds..so all you weak arms naysayers can **** off
02-06-2006, 08:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by roller3804 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
When did I ever say anything about you? thats what I thought. I have an opinion. The way you take it is your problem. And thanks for the imature response to my post. It ends now. Stupid posts like this is why htech is overran with BS nowdays.
its not like I was trying to debate you ******. I was merely expressing an opinion growup.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok you know why honda-tech is all gay'd up because of ppl like you...people like you whos incorrect advice or "opinions" as you call them litter up the forums and confuse the **** out of everyone...you know how theres always the questions like: searched and more confused? so can anyone whos really done this and that tell me what really is up??, etc... SO why dont you keep your contorted bs to yourself and stop confusing people who are trying to gain an understanding of things...
When did I ever say anything about you? thats what I thought. I have an opinion. The way you take it is your problem. And thanks for the imature response to my post. It ends now. Stupid posts like this is why htech is overran with BS nowdays.
its not like I was trying to debate you ******. I was merely expressing an opinion growup.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok you know why honda-tech is all gay'd up because of ppl like you...people like you whos incorrect advice or "opinions" as you call them litter up the forums and confuse the **** out of everyone...you know how theres always the questions like: searched and more confused? so can anyone whos really done this and that tell me what really is up??, etc... SO why dont you keep your contorted bs to yourself and stop confusing people who are trying to gain an understanding of things...
02-06-2006, 08:57 PM
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Hey guys,
Lets keep this thread informative, and leave the bs in the PMs.
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also i think it will be easier to just take off the inner tie rods while the rack is still on the car, that way you dont even have to take the wheels or ball joints off, and it will be easier to get the rack out....
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I was going to do this, but I needed to replace the ball joints and the boot anyways so I went ahead with the full removal.
I would recommend that the others do this though, good suggestion.
Modified by skrewdlude at 6:22 PM 2/7/2006
Lets keep this thread informative, and leave the bs in the PMs.
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also i think it will be easier to just take off the inner tie rods while the rack is still on the car, that way you dont even have to take the wheels or ball joints off, and it will be easier to get the rack out....
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I was going to do this, but I needed to replace the ball joints and the boot anyways so I went ahead with the full removal.
I would recommend that the others do this though, good suggestion.
Modified by skrewdlude at 6:22 PM 2/7/2006
02-06-2006, 09:11 PM
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on another note, if you read the posts, you would see that the only thing you need is grease
if you are so upset about the back and forth, dont give the back to the forth
if you are so upset about the back and forth, dont give the back to the forth
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If there was only the one on the end of the rack what would support the middle? Do whatever. My pics and work weren't even used for this I'm glad someone will get all the credit for this. Whatever expletive asses. None of you even had the ***** to do this I saw the post about the yah or nay and so I did it that day just to prove it could be done but why did I even bother taking pictures? ******* bullshit if you ask me. I will not share any future improvments with anyone I guess since someone else will act as if they did the whole thing and were the first to do everything.
This reminds me of the time I built my old bosses EP Si. I built the First EP Si with a RSX type S motor and full on Greddy turbo kit to include the intercooler and A Greddy EVo catback not to mention countless other mods. This was when the car was still new and there were only like 5 other Type S swaps in the USA. You know what that and 20 cents can get a cup of ******* coffee at Denny's Yeah!
I'm tired of the loads of work and no pay off. I think it's times to raise my labor rate and stop helping people for free...........................bla bla bla!
This reminds me of the time I built my old bosses EP Si. I built the First EP Si with a RSX type S motor and full on Greddy turbo kit to include the intercooler and A Greddy EVo catback not to mention countless other mods. This was when the car was still new and there were only like 5 other Type S swaps in the USA. You know what that and 20 cents can get a cup of ******* coffee at Denny's Yeah!
I'm tired of the loads of work and no pay off. I think it's times to raise my labor rate and stop helping people for free...........................bla bla bla!
02-07-2006, 03:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
take off cylinder lines A&B and plug their holes
take off the input lines and plug their holes
take the seal off the piston
thats it, yours is more simple....
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Thanks man, I will be doing this tonight!!
take off cylinder lines A&B and plug their holes
take off the input lines and plug their holes
take the seal off the piston
thats it, yours is more simple....
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Thanks man, I will be doing this tonight!!
02-07-2006, 06:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Skidtron89 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If there was only the one on the end of the rack what would support the middle? Do whatever. My pics and work weren't even used for this I'm glad someone will get all the credit for this. Whatever expletive asses. None of you even had the ***** to do this I saw the post about the yah or nay and so I did it that day just to prove it could be done but why did I even bother taking pictures? ******* bullshit if you ask me. I will not share any future improvments with anyone I guess since someone else will act as if they did the whole thing and were the first to do everything.
This reminds me of the time I built my old bosses EP Si. I built the First EP Si with a RSX type S motor and full on Greddy turbo kit to include the intercooler and A Greddy EVo catback not to mention countless other mods. This was when the car was still new and there were only like 5 other Type S swaps in the USA. You know what that and 20 cents can get a cup of ******* coffee at Denny's Yeah!
I'm tired of the loads of work and no pay off. I think it's times to raise my labor rate and stop helping people for free...........................bla bla bla!</TD></TR></TABLE>
dude i told you when you said you did it to post it up as text on the forum....nobody wants to download 50 megs worth of powerpoints
im trying to discuss something with you rather than argue dude, constructively....calm down
its not like you innovated the removal of power steering, its been done before....i would have done it either way....
most racks dont have a cylinder cap anyways, theyre just supported by the ends, i was just wondering what your thoughts were on that....calm down
thanks to everyone who isnt being a douche on this thread....but i do want to say thanks to skidtron, bc i probably would have never done this without him
Modified by mgags7 at 11:10 AM 2/7/2006
This reminds me of the time I built my old bosses EP Si. I built the First EP Si with a RSX type S motor and full on Greddy turbo kit to include the intercooler and A Greddy EVo catback not to mention countless other mods. This was when the car was still new and there were only like 5 other Type S swaps in the USA. You know what that and 20 cents can get a cup of ******* coffee at Denny's Yeah!
I'm tired of the loads of work and no pay off. I think it's times to raise my labor rate and stop helping people for free...........................bla bla bla!</TD></TR></TABLE>
dude i told you when you said you did it to post it up as text on the forum....nobody wants to download 50 megs worth of powerpoints
im trying to discuss something with you rather than argue dude, constructively....calm down
its not like you innovated the removal of power steering, its been done before....i would have done it either way....
most racks dont have a cylinder cap anyways, theyre just supported by the ends, i was just wondering what your thoughts were on that....calm down
thanks to everyone who isnt being a douche on this thread....but i do want to say thanks to skidtron, bc i probably would have never done this without him
Modified by mgags7 at 11:10 AM 2/7/2006
02-07-2006, 06:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Skidtron89 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If there was only the one on the end of the rack what would support the middle? Do whatever. My pics and work weren't even used for this I'm glad someone will get all the credit for this. Whatever expletive asses. None of you even had the ***** to do this I saw the post about the yah or nay and so I did it that day just to prove it could be done but why did I even bother taking pictures? ******* bullshit if you ask me. I will not share any future improvments with anyone I guess since someone else will act as if they did the whole thing and were the first to do everything.
This reminds me of the time I built my old bosses EP Si. I built the First EP Si with a RSX type S motor and full on Greddy turbo kit to include the intercooler and A Greddy EVo catback not to mention countless other mods. This was when the car was still new and there were only like 5 other Type S swaps in the USA. You know what that and 20 cents can get a cup of ******* coffee at Denny's Yeah!
I'm tired of the loads of work and no pay off. I think it's times to raise my labor rate and stop helping people for free...........................bla bla bla!</TD></TR></TABLE>
No offense man, but this is the MOST whiny post I have ever seen. Who cares about "credit" for this. This is a write up on Honda-Tech, not like a ground breaking scientific discovery. You were not the first to think of it. 117 on here posted that he did this 1 or 2 years ago. Moreover, much like that miata page, many people have done it to other cars for a long time.
That being said, I have already thanked you for all your help in the last thread. Also in this thread I have seen many people give you the props that you seem to need.
I took pictures as I went through it because no one seemed to want to give your write up out. Many people, along with myself, asked for a copy of the write up, and it was not given. I had told the other inquiring people that if it was not posted by this past weekend, I would take pictures. No one delivered, so I took pictures. Nothing to get angry about. Just trying to help out fellow luders. Many write ups have helped me, and I like to help out others when I can.
So once again, thanks skidtron.
This reminds me of the time I built my old bosses EP Si. I built the First EP Si with a RSX type S motor and full on Greddy turbo kit to include the intercooler and A Greddy EVo catback not to mention countless other mods. This was when the car was still new and there were only like 5 other Type S swaps in the USA. You know what that and 20 cents can get a cup of ******* coffee at Denny's Yeah!
I'm tired of the loads of work and no pay off. I think it's times to raise my labor rate and stop helping people for free...........................bla bla bla!</TD></TR></TABLE>
No offense man, but this is the MOST whiny post I have ever seen. Who cares about "credit" for this. This is a write up on Honda-Tech, not like a ground breaking scientific discovery. You were not the first to think of it. 117 on here posted that he did this 1 or 2 years ago. Moreover, much like that miata page, many people have done it to other cars for a long time.
That being said, I have already thanked you for all your help in the last thread. Also in this thread I have seen many people give you the props that you seem to need.
I took pictures as I went through it because no one seemed to want to give your write up out. Many people, along with myself, asked for a copy of the write up, and it was not given. I had told the other inquiring people that if it was not posted by this past weekend, I would take pictures. No one delivered, so I took pictures. Nothing to get angry about. Just trying to help out fellow luders. Many write ups have helped me, and I like to help out others when I can.
So once again, thanks skidtron.
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dude i told you when you said you did it to post it up as text on the forum....nobody wants to download 50 megs worth of powerpoints
im trying to discuss something with you rather than argue dude, constructively....calm down
its not like you innovated the removal of power steering, its been done before....i would have done it either way....
most racks dont have a cylinder cap anyways, theyre just supported by the ends, i was just wondering what your thoughts were on that....calm down
thanks to everyone who isnt being a douche on this thread....but i do want to say thanks to skidtron, bc i probably would have never done this without him
Modified by mgags7 at 11:10 AM 2/7/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>I'm not saying anything to you personally. I'm just saying you could have at least copy pasted it would have saved you a lot of re typing. Not hating on you but I don't understand why you wouldn't take the pics out of the **** I sent you and use them. It seems a bit like reinventing the wheel. Like I said we're cool!
Most racks are manual steering not power changed to manual that's why the cylinder cap isn't in the manual rack. You more than likely need it to steer your car.
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No offense man, but this is the MOST whiny post I have ever seen. Who cares about "credit" for this. This is a write up on Honda-Tech, not like a ground breaking scientific discovery. You were not the first to think of it. 117 on here posted that he did this 1 or 2 years ago. Moreover, much like that miata page, many people have done it to other cars for a long time.
That being said, I have already thanked you for all your help in the last thread. Also in this thread I have seen many people give you the props that you seem to need.
I took pictures as I went through it because no one seemed to want to give your write up out. Many people, along with myself, asked for a copy of the write up, and it was not given. I had told the other inquiring people that if it was not posted by this past weekend, I would take pictures. No one delivered, so I took pictures. Nothing to get angry about. Just trying to help out fellow luders. Many write ups have helped me, and I like to help out others when I can.
So once again, thanks skidtron.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I did send a test email to everyone that requested the write up and only one person responded to it that's the person that got it. Figured I'd let you and anyone reading this know so that you don't think I ignored your email or asking to receive the write up.
I know it's not the first time this has ever been done and it's not a amazing breakthrough but I can tell you this I read the post about the yah or nah power steering. Then went outside and converted mine that day. I mean within hours while people were probably still discussing if it was even a good idea mine was done. I think that deserves some props (which you have given already no reason to say it again) I let you know the results remember I could have easily said nothing and let you wonder if it was even a good idea to do. So all I'm saying is it was confirmed by me before you did it. You probably would have done it anyways but come you'd have to admit some of you might not even have done it if I didn't give good feedback about it. It would have been one of the things some of the guys on here thought about and dismissed without someone taking the risk first. I was in a pretty bad mood when I wrote that anyways and sorry for being an ******* to you if you took it personally it wasn't meant to be but there are a lot of people that contribute everyday and get no recognition and that is bullshit! Hopefully you guys will still think I'm an ******* though because I am.
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No offense man, but this is the MOST whiny post I have ever seen. Who cares about "credit" for this. This is a write up on Honda-Tech, not like a ground breaking scientific discovery. You were not the first to think of it. 117 on here posted that he did this 1 or 2 years ago. Moreover, much like that miata page, many people have done it to other cars for a long time.
That being said, I have already thanked you for all your help in the last thread. Also in this thread I have seen many people give you the props that you seem to need.
I took pictures as I went through it because no one seemed to want to give your write up out. Many people, along with myself, asked for a copy of the write up, and it was not given. I had told the other inquiring people that if it was not posted by this past weekend, I would take pictures. No one delivered, so I took pictures. Nothing to get angry about. Just trying to help out fellow luders. Many write ups have helped me, and I like to help out others when I can.
So once again, thanks skidtron.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I did send a test email to everyone that requested the write up and only one person responded to it that's the person that got it. Figured I'd let you and anyone reading this know so that you don't think I ignored your email or asking to receive the write up.
I know it's not the first time this has ever been done and it's not a amazing breakthrough but I can tell you this I read the post about the yah or nah power steering. Then went outside and converted mine that day. I mean within hours while people were probably still discussing if it was even a good idea mine was done. I think that deserves some props (which you have given already no reason to say it again) I let you know the results remember I could have easily said nothing and let you wonder if it was even a good idea to do. So all I'm saying is it was confirmed by me before you did it. You probably would have done it anyways but come you'd have to admit some of you might not even have done it if I didn't give good feedback about it. It would have been one of the things some of the guys on here thought about and dismissed without someone taking the risk first. I was in a pretty bad mood when I wrote that anyways and sorry for being an ******* to you if you took it personally it wasn't meant to be but there are a lot of people that contribute everyday and get no recognition and that is bullshit! Hopefully you guys will still think I'm an ******* though because I am.
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Peace bitches!
02-09-2006, 07:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
take off cylinder lines A&B and plug their holes
take off the input lines and plug their holes
take the seal off the piston
thats it, yours is more simple....
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Just a second opinion..can anyone confirm that this iss all you need to do for the 5th gen?
take off cylinder lines A&B and plug their holes
take off the input lines and plug their holes
take the seal off the piston
thats it, yours is more simple....
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Just a second opinion..can anyone confirm that this iss all you need to do for the 5th gen?
02-09-2006, 09:09 PM
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well i cant re-confirm...but ill fly to your house and convert your rack for you.......
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as a trade for the s2000 that i just noticed in your sig....what do you think??
02-10-2006, 03:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i cant re-confirm...but ill fly to your house and convert your rack for you.......
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LMAO! Hey buddy, I wasnt insulting you at all, It just seems really easy compared to the 4th gen and I just wanted to make sure that it is that simple before I tear into it, but I will take your word for it, and even though your offer sounds tempting, I think I will save the S and do it myself lol, thanks man.
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LMAO! Hey buddy, I wasnt insulting you at all, It just seems really easy compared to the 4th gen and I just wanted to make sure that it is that simple before I tear into it, but I will take your word for it, and even though your offer sounds tempting, I think I will save the S and do it myself lol, thanks man.
02-10-2006, 06:28 AM
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i just finished putting the cylinder back in, so i will be editing that part out...</TD></TR></TABLE>
matt, you really think that the cylinder needs to be included, i haven't done this yet, but im sure based on the disassembly on can determine how vital each peice is.. just curious,
nice job to everyone that contributed information, and matt to making ANOTHER write-up /OFFICAL thread LOL ,
i just finished putting the cylinder back in, so i will be editing that part out...</TD></TR></TABLE>
matt, you really think that the cylinder needs to be included, i haven't done this yet, but im sure based on the disassembly on can determine how vital each peice is.. just curious,
nice job to everyone that contributed information, and matt to making ANOTHER write-up /OFFICAL thread LOL ,
02-10-2006, 07:15 AM
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haha yeah i love the OFFICIAL title....its like a slap in the face to any challengers....
as far as the cylinder being required....i put it back in just to be safe, but i really doubt i needed to....
firstly, i think that the cylinder cap holds itself in...check out snapring #41 in the picture:
i think that holds the cap in on its own....
im still trying to figure out if the whole cylinder cap is even needed at all.....i know it serves as a bushing to ride on, but so does either end of the rack....
edit:after reading the helms....it seems as if that cap should just pop right out....so if youre gonna leave the cap in, i believe you should leave the cylinder in....that is removing about 6-10 inches of bushing....but its right near the middle, and there are bushings on both ends of the rack where the seals are.....its hard to say whether its support is needed or not....tom, let us know what you think about it once you get in there
as far as the cylinder being required....i put it back in just to be safe, but i really doubt i needed to....
firstly, i think that the cylinder cap holds itself in...check out snapring #41 in the picture:
i think that holds the cap in on its own....
im still trying to figure out if the whole cylinder cap is even needed at all.....i know it serves as a bushing to ride on, but so does either end of the rack....
edit:after reading the helms....it seems as if that cap should just pop right out....so if youre gonna leave the cap in, i believe you should leave the cylinder in....that is removing about 6-10 inches of bushing....but its right near the middle, and there are bushings on both ends of the rack where the seals are.....its hard to say whether its support is needed or not....tom, let us know what you think about it once you get in there
02-10-2006, 01:41 PM
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has anyone done this manual rack conversion after having already just taken power steering out completely? How much of a difference does it make? I just had my power steering taken out and i'm beginning to regret it. What i had in mind was from when i had driven my friends EG that came factory with a manual steering rack. I figured the lude would be a little harder due to the weight difference but this is absolutely ridiculous, it's an absolute bitch to steer. I already plan on doing this conversion but i'm just wondering ahead of time how much of a difference i should expect to feel.