1funryd

I am creating this post to educate all the 3rd(1988 - 1991 Prelude) gen prelude owners on this site since it is once of the most poplular site to for Honda info.

I know there was a write up on doing the H22 swap into the 88-91 prelude on here somewhere so I am posting up the most current information to date.

I will update this info as we continue to improve and add to this massive project.

I now support the 88-91 Prelude community with the H22/23 or F series swap, and I make the mounts and supporting Traction Bar system as well, and sell the H22 conversion harness made by WireWorx only through me.

Here is what we have do date:

Mounts:


(The Old AZ Race and Machine mounts stopped production in 2010, I took over the design now. Pictures below are from the first sets.)

One of the members on http://www.preludepower.com that purchased and installed the first set.






Here is the clearance from a stock stance(meaning not lowered)







Here are some links to write ups that were done:

The current swap thread: http://www.preludepower.com/forums/s...d.php?t=315370




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Hawkze_2.3

Good info Makes me want to go find a 3rd gen...

1funryd

Your welcome! Here to help!

Sean

handa

Awesome work! I know someone local that needs these info. Thank you very much!

GtechPro

Good info

I had a 3rd gen Si (once upon a time) and loved it. This makes me want to buy another one...

WhiteBB2

iTrader: (1)

would love a 3rd gen to go with my 4th gen...both with h22a's would be nice.

britishdude

Me too I really loved my old 3rd gen with fluttering eyelids she was sexy, I now have 5th gen & would love to combine older car with newer h22. With handling and braking mods it would make a real drivers car, takes me back to my teens nearly.

KEVLARsh

i want to buy another 3rd gen, looks good

1funryd

I feel combining the old with the new on this car would make a perfect match. The only thing this car needed was a better powerplant, but back in the day it was built it was considered a peppy little compact sport car. So, bringing it up to date is the perfect scenario.

BlueLude84

Wow, thats an awsome guide!
I have 1 question though, will the same things apply for my 2nd Gen?
Its almost the exact same body style, and my engine bay looks a bit bigger than that 3rd Gen.

GtechPro

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Its almost the exact same body style</TD></TR></TABLE>

Almost doesn't count

So no, this wouldn't work with the 2nd gen.

1funryd

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Almost doesn't count

So no, this wouldn't work with the 2nd gen. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I do not know? I used to own a 2nd gen too, and I know there is a guy who successfull swapped a B18 into it.

As for the H22, I cannot say, you will have to take some pics and get some measurements from the engine bay so we can compare.

Sean

GtechPro

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1funryd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I do not know? I used to own a 2nd gen too, and I know there is a guy who successfull swapped a B18 into it.

As for the H22, I cannot say, you will have to take some pics and get some measurements from the engine bay so we can compare.

Sean</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought he was asking if the H22 mount kit and the write-up's would also apply for 2nd gen ludes... I honestly doubt it, but the best way to find out would be to take measurments, like you said.

2nd gen Prelude was my first car BTW
After that I had an 89 Si. Then a 95 VTEC, a 94 VTEC, and now another 95 VTEC. (I also had 2 EG's and a DA integra).
That's 5 Preludes. And I hope that's not the final count as I'd love do a 90-91 Si + H22A project.

BlueLude84

Ok, I'll take some measurements tomorrow when its light, and i'll post it on this thread.
-Edit-
Heres a pick of my engine bay, it looks identical ^^. But I swear mine looks bigger.

1funryd

Ok lets compare:

3rd gen


2nd gen


It seems that your engine bay is smaller, remember you have a SOHC and the 3rd gens are DOHC.

From what I can see, the engine will be too big and too much custom work to be viable, but this is only from a visual observation.

Sean

Montx

Man I love you. I avidly browse the PP.com forums and I'm glad you're making a valid impression on here too. If I ever get my second 'lude the H22 swap is in the future! keep up the good work.

BlueLude84

Do you have the measurements for that cars bay?
So that way we can compare tomorrow when I take mine?
And if not an H22 swap, what would you reccomend for a swap into my car?

1funryd

Ok, this is what I found for swapping the B16A into your car:









The cost of this project was 10,000 +.

Here is the link for you to read up on it.

http://www.geocities.com/b16aprelude/index.html


And here is a picture of a B18 swapped into the 2nd gen Lude:


I hope this helps, of course you can find all this info at: http://www.preludepower.com

It will be in the 2nd Gen Section on the site.

Sean

1funryd

I now support a new swap into the 3rd gen Preludes.

Just finished up the B16/18/20b swap mounts and sell them as well as figured out the rod shift linkage to support the swap.

Now all 88-91 Preludes can decide whether they want the Civic/Integra B series motors and tranny's or H22/23 or F series swaps.

This is a huge step forward being able to go between platforms for a very unsupported chassis that has out handles pretty much anything out there in stock trim.


Pics below....












Shifter:












Contact me via pm or email: 1funryd@comcast.net



Sean