01' SH O2 sensor data confusion
#1
01' SH O2 sensor data confusion
Evening all,
I have an 01' SH, 133K on the odometer,completely absolutely stock.
I am working through a P0172 and a P0175 code solution. I am working with my Actron CP9580A that can read live data. I am also looking at my Helms troubleshooting flowchart. Something as I am learning my scanner confuses me. Wondering if anybody else has ever seen this. I called Actron and they were not sure what it was and just chalked it up to a "Honda thing".
When I choose the O2 monitor test I choose to look at O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1, it displays the following;
Test $30
Mod $10
Max 2.2 (S)
Meas 1.2 (S)
Min 0.0 (S)
For O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
Test $45
Mod $10
Max .8(V)
Meas .8(V)
Min .29(V)
I do not understand the pre-CAT readings. What is the S in parenthesis? Those numbers look strange. I am looking for voltages here I am thinking.
When I graph the pre-CAT sensor(O2S11), I get a nice changing square wave going from .929 to .011. I am thinking this is a normal reading?
When I graph the Post-CAT sensor(O2S12), I get an odd looking square wave(not the same as the pre-CAT, and it stays right around .717 to .786?
Even an opinion I'll take at this point.
Thank you all so much and have a good night.
Sid
I have an 01' SH, 133K on the odometer,completely absolutely stock.
I am working through a P0172 and a P0175 code solution. I am working with my Actron CP9580A that can read live data. I am also looking at my Helms troubleshooting flowchart. Something as I am learning my scanner confuses me. Wondering if anybody else has ever seen this. I called Actron and they were not sure what it was and just chalked it up to a "Honda thing".
When I choose the O2 monitor test I choose to look at O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1, it displays the following;
Test $30
Mod $10
Max 2.2 (S)
Meas 1.2 (S)
Min 0.0 (S)
For O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
Test $45
Mod $10
Max .8(V)
Meas .8(V)
Min .29(V)
I do not understand the pre-CAT readings. What is the S in parenthesis? Those numbers look strange. I am looking for voltages here I am thinking.
When I graph the pre-CAT sensor(O2S11), I get a nice changing square wave going from .929 to .011. I am thinking this is a normal reading?
When I graph the Post-CAT sensor(O2S12), I get an odd looking square wave(not the same as the pre-CAT, and it stays right around .717 to .786?
Even an opinion I'll take at this point.
Thank you all so much and have a good night.
Sid
Last edited by cityjack; 11-02-2015 at 06:25 PM. Reason: Find a solution
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Re: 01' SH O2 sensor data confusion
Evening all,
I have an 01' SH, 133K on the odometer,completely absolutely stock.
I am working through a P0172 and a P0175 code solution. I am working with my Actron CP9580A that can read live data. I am also looking at my Helms troubleshooting flowchart. Something as I am learning my scanner confuses me. Wondering if anybody else has ever seen this. I called Actron and they were not sure what it was and just chalked it up to a "Honda thing".
When I choose the O2 monitor test I choose to look at O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1, it displays the following;
Test $30
Mod $10
Max 2.2 (S)
Meas 1.2 (S)
Min 0.0 (S)
For O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
Test $45
Mod $10
Max .8(V)
Meas .8(V)
Min .29(V)
I have an 01' SH, 133K on the odometer,completely absolutely stock.
I am working through a P0172 and a P0175 code solution. I am working with my Actron CP9580A that can read live data. I am also looking at my Helms troubleshooting flowchart. Something as I am learning my scanner confuses me. Wondering if anybody else has ever seen this. I called Actron and they were not sure what it was and just chalked it up to a "Honda thing".
When I choose the O2 monitor test I choose to look at O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1, it displays the following;
Test $30
Mod $10
Max 2.2 (S)
Meas 1.2 (S)
Min 0.0 (S)
For O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
Test $45
Mod $10
Max .8(V)
Meas .8(V)
Min .29(V)
I do not understand the pre-CAT readings. What is the S in parenthesis? Those numbers look strange. I am looking for voltages here I am thinking.
When I graph the pre-CAT sensor(O2S11), I get a nice changing square wave going from .929 to .011. I am thinking this is a normal reading?
When I graph the Post-CAT sensor(O2S12), I get an odd looking square wave(not the same as the pre-CAT, and it stays right around .717 to .786?
Even an opinion I'll take at this point.
Thank you all so much and have a good night.
Sid
When I graph the pre-CAT sensor(O2S11), I get a nice changing square wave going from .929 to .011. I am thinking this is a normal reading?
When I graph the Post-CAT sensor(O2S12), I get an odd looking square wave(not the same as the pre-CAT, and it stays right around .717 to .786?
Even an opinion I'll take at this point.
Thank you all so much and have a good night.
Sid
#3
Re: 01' SH O2 sensor data confusion
Thank you sir the reply. Still troubleshooting a rich condition. I'll start another thread more appropriate for the problem now.
Thanks again.
Sid
Thanks again.
Sid
#4
Re: 01' SH O2 sensor data confusion
Check for an exhaust leak between the manifold and the first O2 sensor. Sounds either a dirty/bad map sensor giving false readings or some extra air is sneaking in and causing the fuel trim to bump up.
It could be a bad primary O2 sensor as well. I've had one that would read the voltages like it should but ended up being bad. I think you can get a Denso on Rockauto for $25 or so. If it's never been replaced it wouldn't hurt anything either.
It could be a bad primary O2 sensor as well. I've had one that would read the voltages like it should but ended up being bad. I think you can get a Denso on Rockauto for $25 or so. If it's never been replaced it wouldn't hurt anything either.
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