itr1137

Hello,

I drive an Integra Type-R and want to get a bike as a daily driver. I am looking to get a Honda. I was wondering for those of you that have driven both, what do you feel the differences are if there are any, in the RC51 vs. the CBR 1000RR? The 06 RC51 is only $500 more than a 2007 model CBR1000rr. Any input or suggestions are appreciated.

Ross

Neither one of those bikes will make a good daily 'driver'. RJ has an RC and if I may speak for him, admits it's not very practical for anything but track use.

EngineNoO9

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I drive an Integra Type-R and want to get a bike as a daily driver. I am looking to get a Honda. I was wondering for those of you that have driven both, what do you feel the differences are if there are any, in the RC51 vs. the CBR 1000RR? The 06 RC51 is only $500 more than a 2007 model CBR1000rr. Any input or suggestions are appreciated. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you'll kill yourself on either and ruin a perfectly good bike....

liam821

The CBR is going to be faster, has more power, and handles better. But the RC is a true "race" bike more or less. Either bikes make crappy daily drivers - seats suck, bad riding position, not the best gas milage. No where did honda have "daily driver" on the list of goals in designing either bike.

Not that you cant do that, i daily drive my zx6r to work almost everyday - when its not raining or super cold.

Also i wouldnt get either of those bikes if you havent riden before - you'll prolly crash it.

liam

itr1137

Okay forget about the daily driving, I may not use it everyday since I like to drive my car as well. I just want a good bike that will last me a long time and is reliable. Those two seem to be the nicest in my opinion.

.RJ

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The RC makes for a pretty poor 'ride everyday' machine but if all you care about is looking cool, thats of little consequence and thats what you should buy.

MSF, Gear, Insurance and cheap starter bike. A noob with a liter bike is a recipe for a busted *** bike and a busted *** rider. CBR F2, Suzuki GS500, Yamaha FZR600, etc. Keep it for 6-12 months, learn how to ride, then move up to something with some HP. Remember, even those old cheap $2000 bikes will run an 11 or 12 sec 1/4 mile - they arent slow.

bustdesenuts

look into something smaller. it's possible to start on litre bike but you can get over your head.

itr1137

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The RC makes for a pretty poor 'ride everyday' machine but if all you care about is looking cool, thats of little consequence and thats what you should buy.

MSF, Gear, Insurance and cheap starter bike. A noob with a liter bike is a recipe for a busted *** bike and a busted *** rider. CBR F2, Suzuki GS500, Yamaha FZR600, etc. Keep it for 6-12 months, learn how to ride, then move up to something with some HP. Remember, even those old cheap $2000 bikes will run an 11 or 12 sec 1/4 mile - they arent slow.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The only fear I have of buying a used bike is that I don't know what people have done to it, or how hard they have driven it. I am a stickler for reliablity. What exactly would you recommend for a daily driver? Something that is comfortable and looks decent? Price does not matter. I still want it to be sporty and be a honda, thats for sure. The only other bikes I could see myself riding are the CBR600 F4i and the CBR600RR.

liam821

You have no idea what you're getting into if you have never riden before with a 1000cc superbike. Trust us!

Maybe get an older CBR F4i - its fuel injected and they are all pretty reliable. Please learn to ride before you climb aboard a newer litre bike.

liam

.RJ

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Honda bikes are super reliable. Just buy one that isnt beat up or owned by a jackass - thats pretty easy to tell really.

I rode an F3 for a year - bought it with 20k miles, sold it with 33k - it was a fantastic bike, started every time and nothing ever went wrong.

Start with an older CBR or VFR for a year and then move up to an F4i or 600RR. Both of those bikes will still run 10's and get you in a lot of trouble if you have your head up your ***.

.RJ

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+1. Even after riding for almost 2 years, moving up to the RC's power was pretty shocking - it wheelies and spins the back tire without much effort. I am probably going to go back to a 600 (600RR) in the spring.

Ross

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+1. Even after riding for almost 2 years, moving up to the RC's power was pretty shocking - it wheelies and spins the back tire without much effort. I am probably going to go back to a 600 (600RR) in the spring.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You are so retarded! You are worse than me...

To the thread creator - get an F4i. It's still a 10-second bike and is infinitely more comfy and practical than the bikes you mentioned.

Gant

u never answered the question have you ever ridden before? please be smart and just get a nice starter bike, ALL your going for is looking cool.

Throwdown

iTrader: (2)

1000rr great bike i've driven both and like the it better though the RC is my favorite twin outa them all the 1000rr just felt better all the way around but thats just my opinion..... good luck on your decision

rdblckSV650S

sounds like you've never ridden before. I'd recommend getting an F3. It's a 600, and tame/powerful at the same time.
DO NOT get an RC51 or a 1000rr if you've never ridden before, especially new. 40% chance you'll wreck it and be out all that money, 40% chance you'll decide riding isn't for you and end up losing money trying to sell a bike you just bought new, and 10% you'll survive the exponential learning curve of a 1000cc bike and actually ride the bike, and 10% chance you'll scare the **** out of yourself but lack the initiative to do anything but keep the bike parked in a dark corner of your garage.


Do yourself a favor and take MSF before you buy anything.

ScareyH22A

Come'on guys, lay off of him. You know as well as I do that when he checks the insurance quote on a 33.814 022 559 ounce, he's gonna totally forget about 'em and will mostly likely end up with a 20.288 413 535 ounce. BTW, you can easily kill yourself even on a 8.453 505 64 ounce.

SWE3TDUDE

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MSF FTW!

85

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I drive an Integra Type-R and want to get a bike as a daily driver. I am looking to get a Honda. I was wondering for those of you that have driven both, what do you feel the differences are if there are any, in the RC51 vs. the CBR 1000RR? The 06 RC51 is only $500 more than a 2007 model CBR1000rr. Any input or suggestions are appreciated. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you need to work you way up, My first bike was a 400. first time i gunned it I though I wasn't going to be able to hang on. I look back on it now and laugh. If I would have gotten on a Liter bike first I cant imagine what would have happen but I'm glad i didn't. Ive been riding for a few years now with most of that time on liter bikes and I'm actually switching back to 600s so I can hone my skills and learn how to ride. something you really can do on a 1000...

RC51WV

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I drive an Integra Type-R and want to get a bike as a daily driver. I am looking to get a Honda. I was wondering for those of you that have driven both, what do you feel the differences are if there are any, in the RC51 vs. the CBR 1000RR? The 06 RC51 is only $500 more than a 2007 model CBR1000rr. Any input or suggestions are appreciated. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I say get something no faster then your integre type r, but then you'd be on a scooter.

How old are you and have you checked insurance? After having about 4 years of riding experience and a license for that long, a brand new 03r6 (in Jan of 03) was going to cost me $2600 a year to insure. That's the price of the bike in almost 3 years. I'm assuming you're under 25, and have no experience. If so, most places will refuse to insure you. Liability is probably even going to be over $1k a year for a liter bike. Any idea why? Maybe because they're not meant to be ridden by people with little to no experience?

Even know what counter steering is?

And are you that brand loyal that you're going to try and jump into riding a bike and only purchase a Honda? The f4i's were notorious for having the CCT's go bad with very little milage on the bike...that's not reliable. My r6 had 29k miles on it when I traded it in and the only mechanical problems I've ever had was a worn out sproket and chain...something that's normal. My 05 rc51 has problems with the transmission randomly slipping and it has about 5,500 miles on it...

Do yourself a favor and look at some of the other bikes mentioned above. Even an f4i will do 10's in the 1/4 and over 150mph. That's faster acceleration than a new vette. I'm pretty sure you didn't learn how to drive in one of those. And if you telling us that you drive an integra type r is your way of bragging that you have a fast vehicle and can handle a lot of power, then you have no idea.



edit: BTW I own an rc51. I'm a little under 250lbs and even with a stock bike, I can get the rear to slide out in a turn with just less than a 1/4 turn of the throttle at the right time. Ready to accept that responsibility?

D Day

if you have no previous riding experience (by this i mean you have never been licensed and owned a motorcycle) then you might as well buy a head stone when you buy the bike. i am not saying that you ARE going to die on the bike, maybe you have the maturity to learn at your own pace and take it easy, but it is very likely that you will use the head stone to its full potential far before either the RC or Krr.

you live in cali so you really dont have a riding season, so i would suggest getting an older 600 (SV, F4i, F4, nice F3, early 2k r6, gsxr6, zx6 ect ect ect) and riding that through the winter and spring at minimum. you might as well get some miles and months under your belt before you go and TRY to ride either one of those bikes. not saying you cant do it, but well, you cant do it.

RC51WV

Sorry. If you are a new rider I just think complete ignorance of motorcycles is....dumb....by a car enthusiast.

D Day

everyone starts their knowledge somewhere. lets just hope this guy takes our advice, does his research and comes back with a better idea of what he is getting into and how to work his way up to the bike he wants.

JMU R1

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That's a little over the line dude. Sure, this guy may have been on the highway to ICU but everyone was ignorant at one time, no need to insult the guy. I know it's fun to tell people how many ways they are going to die if they try to learn on a literbike but it's not the most mature or friendly way to welcome someone to the fold. If someone comes on here talking trash and what not that's different but this gentleman did nothing of the sort.

But yeah, what everyone else said, take the MSF first. Then try a F3, SV650, or whatever. Take a riding school sometime in there if possible (California Superbike School is well worth the investment). Also make sure you buy and consistently wear proper gear and you'll be all set.

I'd recommend gloves, a riding jacket (with armor), and some sort of boots (moto specific boots would be best). People may say you don't need gloves but hands are very difficult to reconstruct after massive tissue damage. Boots may save you from a sprained, broken, or rashed up foot after a crash, which will allow you to at least pick the bike up and could also give you just enough time to get off the road.

Be safe, don't make decisions with your *****, and enjoy a long lifetime of riding

Sijray21

a cheap learner bike will be your best bet for a daily rider as said before by RJ. Your other best bet will be an ego check before you hop on the bike. It'll save your life...(not kidding). Riding a motorcycle is NOTHING like riding in a FAST car - FYI.

i bought a '95 GS 500e with 5k miles in 2005 (not sure how it had so little). It was in poor shape but it never complained and never gave me any problems. It was a comfortable, quick, and fun daily bike and a GREAT learner bike. It also got 55mpg (which was great for daily riding). I presonally recommend that you take the MSF first then look for that bike (it should be around $1200-$1400).

It appears that you're just getting into motorcycles. After the first few thousand miles you will know what bike you would like to move up to. I went from that GS500 to a 600RR - it was a HUGE difference. I've also ridden a Yamaha R1 (Similar to the 1000RR) and that is a WHOLE other ballgame as far as bikes are concerned.

<U>Credentials:</U>
I've put about 8k miles on both my bikes (over a 16 month period) along with one track-day experience and i'm still waiting on my first fall. :knocksonwood:

<U>Recipe for Successful Riding:</U>
MSF
Learner Bike
Advanced Bike
(always respecting the bike and being aware of traffic and road conditions)

knockout

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And are you that brand loyal that you're going to try and jump into riding a bike and only purchase a Honda? The f4i's were notorious for having the CCT's go bad with very little milage on the bike...that's not reliable. My r6 had 29k miles on it when I traded it in and the only mechanical problems I've ever had was a worn out sproket and chain...something that's normal. My 05 rc51 has problems with the transmission randomly slipping and it has about 5,500 miles on it...</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea the CCT was somewhat of a common problem for f4i's, but the past 2 generations of r6's have had there problems, 2nd gear issues and of course the tach error/"rpm lie". fact is every bike is different. there are f4i's that have 25k miles and have never changed their CCTs. every honda I've ever seen has been reliable from the factory, the problems root from their owners. and most of yamaha's problems root from the factory. so which is less reliable?

get yourself something practical yet fun for your first bike. any sportbike from the 90's will be great, but i think if you want something low maintenance that can run 10's and is comfortable. not to mention pretty good on gas, get an f4i.