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Old 03-10-2012, 11:05 AM
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Hey so now that my lift is on and I have had the pleasure of exploring all different routes of doing it I just wanted to make a list of various ways you are able to lift it because when you look on the internet you get all sorts of random ideas and a lot of back reading is involved.

1st way:

Lift Springs - these come from only 2 companies that I know off after BDS stopped making them and they are Old Man Emu and Camel 4x4

OME springs which retail about $350+shipping for all 4. I dealt with this company and their customer service is not very customer friendly and also the wait time is about 3 months to get your springs since they are shipped from Australia but I hear they have nice ride quality.

Camel 4x4 springs are the ones I opted to order because they are A. cheaper than OME springs and B. located in the united states so I got my springs in about 2 weeks time. I must say I was very satisfied with their customer service and Eli the owner of the company actually answers the phone most of the time and he is a great person with lots of knowledge in the field and dosnt mind if you pick his brain a little bit on the phone and I am very satisfied with the ride quality of the springs on and off road.

2nd way:

Is to use strut spacers in between the body, these can be used with oem springs to keep the stock ride quality while lifting the same or more as lift springs. The only thing I was iffy with about this modification is if you keep stock springs they have a lot of body roll to them and with the raised center of gravity could be recipe for rolling your vehicle but if used with upgraded sway bars and strut bars could be a comparable way to lift the vehicle safely and much cheaper than springs

3rd way:

Is to actually make your own coil overs for the vehicle. This can be done by using ek coil over sleeves on whatever strut with 9in-10in hyper-coil springs (ordered off ebay for 64.99 a piece) with a front spring rate of 675lbs and a rear spring rate of 375lbs (same as ksport coil overs) effectively providing you with a adjustable ride height for people who would desire such. I have not seen any people attempt this yet I was going to but decided against it since my crv is also my daily driver vehicle. If someone does please post a write up for us so we can admire the work.

Struts:
I used tokico hp struts on my crv lift and they ride nice (i have formerly used these on several civics i have owned) they offer a nice ride with great handling but you can also use bilstein or oem struts if you so desire to.

Tires:
I have heard of people running up to a 31in tire on camel4x4 lift with slight modification to the wheel well. I myself am using Kumho sl671 sa-t 235/75r15 they equate to about a 30x9.2in in tire and I get a very minor rub on extremely hard turning but that is it and it is easily taken care of by grinding down a little plastic bump in the inside if the wheel well.

Wheels:

I am using a crager 342 with a 4.25in back spacing(have seen people use a 4in bs as well) and +6mm offset (THESE WHEELS REQUIRE AT LEAST A 1/4IN SPACER TO BE USED) the wheels are great and look great on crv's you can use any steel wheel. I AM using stock lugs for this setup in order to do this with spacers the wheel must be no more than .255in thick at the hub plate with this setup I have 5 turns on my front lug nuts and 4.5 turns on my rear lug nuts I am also using the lowest lock tite on them just in case. I have extended lugs but didn't think it necessary to put them in. The matter of using extended lugs in this application is purely my own opinion I am in no way shape or form telling you its the best way to go. But if you look at osx2000's crv he has had his lifted on stock the almost same setup with stock lugs since 2006. So it is purely up to you if you want to use them or not.



If you have any questions I will be more than happy to assist you as best as i can as I know if was a bi*ch back reading pages upon pages of forums to get the information that I needed to lift my car and that I have posted here. I hope this helps many people out and alleviates some headaches.


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great, write up. i did the same thing to my crv a few months ago. had a hell of a time finding accurate info. used alot of OSX's stuff to reference.

i also used a 4 inch backspacing and a 5MM spacer in the front only on stock studs and tuner lungs.

I went with OME springs cuz at the time they were the only ones available but the ride is great, shipping took 3 months.

Also, ive recieved like3-4 emails asking me for help and I also am more then willing to help anyone out.
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I'm in the process of New wheels for my V. 16x7 with 38mm offset and 25mm spacers to get the wheels where i want. The spacers will be hubcentric but the new.rims have a 72.6 hub size compared to the 64.1 on the V. Is it reliable to use the plastic centering rings of this adaption? I'll be installing my wheels and spacers. The shop will mount nd balance them only. I plan to use threadlocker on the spacers etc. Should there be any concerns?

My tires will ne 215/70/16. Toyo ATs. I'm hoping they clean w no lift. I will do the lift in the future but no funds for it now. My current tires are shot so they have priority.

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great post, i was looking a couple weeks back and pretty much just gave up because i couldnt find any real useful info. if i didnt have a 350z to steal all my monies i would want to try the coilover route.
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Originally Posted by joelliott82
I'm in the process of New wheels for my V. 16x7 with 38mm offset and 25mm spacers to get the wheels where i want. The spacers will be hubcentric but the new.rims have a 72.6 hub size compared to the 64.1 on the V. Is it reliable to use the plastic centering rings of this adaption? I'll be installing my wheels and spacers. The shop will mount nd balance them only. I plan to use threadlocker on the spacers etc. Should there be any concerns?

My tires will ne 215/70/16. Toyo ATs. I'm hoping they clean w no lift. I will do the lift in the future but no funds for it now. My current tires are shot so they have priority.

Thanks

I used the hub centric spacers designed for the V's hub even though my cragers also have a 72.6 hub bore i put the plastic ring(aluminum in my case) in there and mounted the tires and then took them out with pliers and just keep an extra one in my V just in case but my buddy who works at a wheel+tire shop said they have done it like that always that little ring is just to make sure you have it absolutely centered because the holes are wider than stock lugs.
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How much did the bigger tires bog down power when you went off road or did you really notice much of a difference? I know the low end power sucks in the crvs until you get mid range and I can feel the power kick in at that time. I plan on lifting my car but with such limited options I can't do a 3-4 inch like I wanted. Do you know of any aces I could go to get the strut spacers made or ordered from?
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Originally Posted by 1997vcr
How much did the bigger tires bog down power when you went off road or did you really notice much of a difference? I know the low end power sucks in the crvs until you get mid range and I can feel the power kick in at that time. I plan on lifting my car but with such limited options I can't do a 3-4 inch like I wanted. Do you know of any aces I could go to get the strut spacers made or ordered from?
I do not have a b20z in my cr-v it is a built ls-v with a n/a tune on it until i go turbo but if yours is a 97 then its got the b20b in it which has less hp/trq and rpm's than the b20z. The stock motor is very gutless though so I could see power being an issue especially on the b20b. When I was exploring strut spacers I have a friend who works at a hydraulic company and he could of machined them for me and I actually still might get some for another .5-1in left but havnt decided yet. If you read the post about the guys wife's crv dailey omaha/nebraska or something like that he had some strut spacers made that lifted the cr-v quite nicely. Also my crv sits almost 4 inches taller than a stock cr-v with the lift and the tires on it.
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Great write up!
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Originally Posted by superfastb20a
I do not have a b20z in my cr-v it is a built ls-v with a n/a tune on it until i go turbo but if yours is a 97 then its got the b20b in it which has less hp/trq and rpm's than the b20z. The stock motor is very gutless though so I could see power being an issue especially on the b20b. When I was exploring strut spacers I have a friend who works at a hydraulic company and he could of machined them for me and I actually still might get some for another .5-1in left but havnt decided yet. If you read the post about the guys wife's crv dailey omaha/nebraska or something like that he had some strut spacers made that lifted the cr-v quite nicely. Also my crv sits almost 4 inches taller than a stock cr-v with the lift and the tires on it.
Here's a question for you (and a simple one at that): What shocks did you go with? Thanks in advance for any replies.
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What size tires are those? Im looking at doing the same for my V... How much did it cost you in the long run? Did mpg decrease significantly?
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Here's a question for you (and a simple one at that): What shocks did you go with? Thanks in advance for any replies.
tokico hp (blues) for a 1st gen cr-v
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Originally Posted by ChalmersP
What size tires are those? Im looking at doing the same for my V... How much did it cost you in the long run? Did mpg decrease significantly?
the tires are 235/75r15 and mpg suffered a little bit but lets put it like this i drive roughly 12 miles a day and i can put half a tank in my v and it will last me a week and a half. Granted that's shifting around 2700-3500 rpms if i hit vtec a lot then its substantially worse lol

tires - $400
struts - $330
springs - $390
strut plate bushings - $25
crager 342's - $290

and i used the strut plates from a 98 ex civic so i could keep my stock stuff assembled.

once i had all the parts i took me 8 hrs to get everything on there. its pretty easy hardest part is assembling the struts/springs unless you have a boss spring compressor cuz they are stiff as f*ckkkkkkkkkkkk a normal spring compressor barely does it. also on the back i didnt drop the trailing whole arm off i just pried it down and slipped it in there (sounds alot easier then it was lol)
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Awesome write up!

I am going to go get some custom billet strut spacers made this weekend. I figured I would try those out first and see how I like them. I plan on making the spacers 2" in the front and 2.25" in the rear. It seems like it is do-able right?

I also decided to go with 15x7 Cragar soft 8's with a +0 (maybe +6) offset wrapped 215-75-15 BFG all terrain TKO's. Since it will be my daily driver and I didnt want to sacrifice power and mpgs.

Do some of you experienced guys see any issues I may run into with this setup?
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are you positive about the 675 lb front springs? i think the rates of mine were 400 or something... but i do feel like i need a stiffer spring up front thanks!!
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so i am totally new too this crv stuff and did some research before buying my 2000 crv (i think lx not sure) has 80,000 kms!!!! on it going too tune/adjust the valves soon will see how hard it is too do.....i have had it about a month now and since it is AWD and all my friends have big 4x4 trucks im considering doing a sapcer lift and yes i have read possibly every thread on doing lifts and beeing dutch and cheap im going make some spacers myself. my brother works for a big shop so i can use thier welder and make something up probly 1.3/4" in the front and 2.1/4" in the back since i tow some stuff in my trailer like my 2000 honda trx300ex XD found some tires and rims 235/55/18 wondering if these will rub? any help will be apprciated
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anybody ? also would like too post some pictures of when i first picked it up and what it looks like atm
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but i dont know how
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well thats it all stock still. waiting for someone too give me and answer on my question if 235/55/18 will fit if i do a 2.25 spacer lift in the back and 1.75 spacer lift in the front ?
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Yes they should fit just fine with that setup. The overall tire diameter of that tire is 28.2"
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okay thanks 4cylfeind
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Just wanted to give you guys the heads up as everyone seems to be on backorder with coil springs. Ordered a set of OME's from Rocky Road Outfitters on 3/29 and got them today. They did ship overseas.
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Originally Posted by 2000crv sport
well thats it all stock still. waiting for someone too give me and answer on my question if 235/55/18 will fit if i do a 2.25 spacer lift in the back and 1.75 spacer lift in the front ?
yeah that tire will work just fine the cr-v. I have had to grind down the bumps on the inside of the front wheel wells that are on the rear side of the wheel well. You dont have to do this but it will enable you to make tight turns without any rubbing! I will post pics of it coming up this weekend.
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okay thanks more info would be great im trying to go for the mdx or bmw crossover look since nobody has done that yet but it takes money and time.... and i have a quad that breaks down .... so money is tight :p thanks for the reply and pictures would be great.


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