Tims Toy 500

Timing belt change on a B20Z: Does anyone know how to remove the crank pulley without Hondas $80.00 hex tool? (Not the spanner tool used on the early D15's - Already got one of those)

k20rex

starter trick

K7-1Ktrevor

if the motor is out of the car too Iv threaded in a 12mm bolt on the back side of the flywheel so It can't spin and use a large breaker bar. might work if in the car too just never done it that way.

Tims Toy 500

Thanks for the input!
The starter trick sounds scary! I like the bolt idea. But, its in the car.
Other ideas?

D16SiHatch

chain wrench with a rag to hold the crank in place and then use a breaker bar. hasn't failed me yet

k20rex

Starter idea is not that scarry my redneck toyota buddy showed me that one it does work, I ended up buying the tool because I had the motor out of the car I could not get it off

12thstreetjunkman

most parts stores have the honda crank hex tool deal as a loan-a-tool. I know o'reilly's, and auto zone do here anyway.

turtleman321

They are only like 25 from amazon

porkfried83

Yeah I'm having the same problem with my D16Z6, I just bought the 50mm Hex head crank pulley holder off amazon for 25 bucks. I tried heating the bolt with propane, then took two breaker bars to it and it won't work. Oh yeah forgot to mention, the motor is on a engine stand.....I thought this was going to be easy.

Mr.Cheezil

Why would you heat the bolt itself up?

You don't wont the bolt to expand you want the surrounding area to expand.

porkfried83

I was trying to break the friction....like rust! Your right though.

night

seriously? worst advice ever.

starter + counter clockwise motor = kill yourself



best way is to get a nylon rope, put the #1 at TDC as usual, back the crank off then put some rope down the spark plug. 4-6" will do. *make sure the valves are on TDC and closed*. then turn it back and it locks up the motor nicely.

chickennecks?

W my z6 on a stand i got the longest breaker bar I could (24"), and a 6' piece of 1/4 x 2" flat bar steel, drilled two holes in the steel to bolt to the other end of the crank. Then rotate the crank untill the 6' piece of steel hit the ground, and then threw my massive 150lb body into it. Popped it off all by myself. Be carefull of the motor tipping over though...

k20rex

im still alive and it works nothing even can close to going wrong but sure something could

k20rex

many people do it this way

99_Taco_Supreme

After watching the video it doesn't seem so scary or crazy. Could all that resistance damage or kill your starter though? Just curious.

beansandrice

Keep in mind guys. The B series (that I know of) are reverse rotating engines. Doing this starter trick will be great.... For tightening the sht out of the bolt or breaking the head off! Then you can get the pulley out. But you will be screwed with the broken threads in the crank haha.

beansandrice

My favorite way to remove a pulley bolt is with 1. An impact or 2. A friends impact.

if you are down on funds you can buy this gun at Harbor fright.
http://www.harborfreight.com/1-2-hal...nch-94803.html

Direct imitation of snap-on's twin hammer. This POS is a good budget impact.

KINGVEM^^ED6

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snap on 2500 ft lbs impact spend some money

~sp33~

Yeah the motor will spin the wrong way and tighten the *** out of the bolt. Don't do it this way.

honda.lioness

Heating a bolt causes it to expand lengthwise, not radially. In industry with very large diameter bolts, indeed the correct torque is achieved by first heating the bolts with special internal heaters, turning the hot bolt literally by <gloved> hand, then letting the bolt cool. The bolt stretches during heating so it is easier to turn. It expands radially as it cools. Its diameter is actually smaller when heated.

But for other reasons I would not heat the pulley bolt.

Here is a hex tool one can make (with some effort) using plumbing supplies:

http://sites.google.com/site/hondali...madepulleytool

But if there was one for $25 already made, I would buy it. The homemade tool was kind of a lot of trouble. Works great though.

k20rex

couldn't you move the wrench to either side and have it hold? i no longer have to do this because i have the tool for both d and b series

v8killaz

the most retard thing is sticking nylon in the spark plug hole. how retarded does that sound. your forcing all the weight on the piston and rod.

thats alot of force

starter trick works but only if the bolt is barely on. if its tight like most nuts it will never open with the starter yes ive tried on every honda and it didnt work ever.


one way that works is take the starter out and stick a screwdriver on the flywheel then loosen the nut. never had this fail.

there are many ways to do it.

dont heat the thing too much because the the pulley has rubber and the front seal is right there. it could cause a headache if heated improperly

Tims Toy 500

This is the best idea I've seen here! I’ve thought about getting a 50mm nut and welding a bar to it. - Add that old pink handle grip from my daughters bicycle (sparkly tassels included) and voila! A new tool to add to the arsenal… Where do I buy a 50mm nut???? Cheep.

NOFX

I picked up the tool from NAPA for $45, but Autozone rents one as well. It might be a tool they need to order for you (2-4 days from order). It costs $36 and when you bring the tool back you get all your money back.