what makes a crx si heavier than an hf
09-07-2007, 07:18 PM
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what makes a crx si heavier than an hf
what makes an 89 crx si some much heavier than a crx hf ?
what parts could i could take out to make it lighter ?
1989 Honda CRX HF MT 1834 (should be around that weight)
1989 Honda CRX Si MT 2138
where does the extra 304 lbs come from ?
what parts could i could take out to make it lighter ?
1989 Honda CRX HF MT 1834 (should be around that weight)
1989 Honda CRX Si MT 2138
where does the extra 304 lbs come from ?
09-07-2007, 07:31 PM
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Re: what makes a crx si heavier than an hf (M BOSS)
Beefier front and rear bumper supports, door impact beams, door-mounted seat belts, floor pan reinforcements, rear sway bar and associated bracketry, larger front sway bar, a rear wiper, a rear storage compartment, larger wheels and tires, a sunroof with associated rails and electric components, a passenger side mirror, a dead pedal, larger front brake components and axles, heavier seats, heavier engine and manifolds, more sound deadening material, larger fuel tank - among other miscellaneous items.
Some of those items cannot be removed, and others are important to performance and/or safety/integrity.
Some of those items cannot be removed, and others are important to performance and/or safety/integrity.
09-07-2007, 07:40 PM
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Re: what makes a crx si heavier than an hf (Targa250R)
if only you could show the difference of weight on those individual components. i'd be swapping some HF stuff over to my si for sure.
09-07-2007, 07:44 PM
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Re: what makes a crx si heavier than an hf (M BOSS)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by M BOSS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so would it be better (worth it) if i left my SI project and started looking for an HF ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
So you can street race? No.
If you're using it for an auto-x or drag car, then by all means, yes.
So you can street race? No.
If you're using it for an auto-x or drag car, then by all means, yes.
09-07-2007, 07:55 PM
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Re: (abram_quito)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by abram_quito »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the stuff that makes it heavier is what we need for safety
and si are not a lot a lot heavier only 250 lbs more
hf is light for 2nd generation
but 1st generation is lighter</TD></TR></TABLE>
250 pounds would be about .25 sec off 1/4 mile time. which means something to me
and si are not a lot a lot heavier only 250 lbs more
hf is light for 2nd generation
but 1st generation is lighter</TD></TR></TABLE>
250 pounds would be about .25 sec off 1/4 mile time. which means something to me
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09-07-2007, 08:01 PM
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Re: (M BOSS)
if its gonna be street driven who cares about the extra weight it'll help you stay alive when a dumbass hits the road.
09-07-2007, 08:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by M BOSS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
250 pounds would be about .25 sec off 1/4 mile time. which means something to me</TD></TR></TABLE>
So you're going to take the entire car apart for 2 lousy tenths of a second?
250 pounds would be about .25 sec off 1/4 mile time. which means something to me</TD></TR></TABLE>
So you're going to take the entire car apart for 2 lousy tenths of a second?
09-07-2007, 08:20 PM
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Re: (Targa250R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So you're going to take the entire car apart for 2 lousy tenths of a second?</TD></TR></TABLE>
no i was thinking about selling my si project and start looking for an hf project but i dont know if i want to get into more work. i think 2 tenths is a good amount time to save.
So you're going to take the entire car apart for 2 lousy tenths of a second?</TD></TR></TABLE>
no i was thinking about selling my si project and start looking for an hf project but i dont know if i want to get into more work. i think 2 tenths is a good amount time to save.
09-08-2007, 08:33 AM
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Re: (~sp33~)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ~sp33~ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is the only purpose of the car to drag race?</TD></TR></TABLE>
well i want it to be a street / drag car
well i want it to be a street / drag car
09-08-2007, 08:41 AM
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if your going to get an hf then keep the si for parts. unless you want to keep the hf engine in there and the twig like axels and the smaller breaks. get the hf and swap the important stuff over from the si then get rid of the si. my .02
09-08-2007, 08:50 AM
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Re: what makes a crx si heavier than an hf (M BOSS)
<3 my hf.
look for an 88-89 that doesnt have the seatbelts in the door for the maximum savings.
its not just .25 on the 1/4, all handling and every aspect of the car is affected first by its weight.
plus the doors look a bit better with the thinner door sashes, changes the profile of the car a bit, more like the jdm counterparts.
of course, my opinion is a bit skewed.
if its strictly for drag, then just worry about making power.
look for an 88-89 that doesnt have the seatbelts in the door for the maximum savings.
its not just .25 on the 1/4, all handling and every aspect of the car is affected first by its weight.
plus the doors look a bit better with the thinner door sashes, changes the profile of the car a bit, more like the jdm counterparts.
of course, my opinion is a bit skewed.
if its strictly for drag, then just worry about making power.
09-08-2007, 09:16 AM
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Re: what makes a crx si heavier than an hf (doublethink)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doublethink »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its not just .25 on the 1/4, all handling and every aspect of the car is affected first by its weight.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't think for a minute that we all don't understand that.
You have to realize that there is a point of diminishing returns on the investment.
Don't think for a minute that we all don't understand that.
You have to realize that there is a point of diminishing returns on the investment.
09-08-2007, 11:12 AM
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Re: what makes a crx si heavier than an hf (Targa250R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You have to realize that there is a point of diminishing returns on the investment.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i was just sharing with the OP since he only mentioned the raw quater mile estimate, and perhaps it hadn't occured to him!
for what he was saying its probably a better idea from a money aspect to spend more on the motor and he wont notice the difference, was basically my point.
You have to realize that there is a point of diminishing returns on the investment.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i was just sharing with the OP since he only mentioned the raw quater mile estimate, and perhaps it hadn't occured to him!
for what he was saying its probably a better idea from a money aspect to spend more on the motor and he wont notice the difference, was basically my point.
10-03-2007, 06:09 PM
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Re: what makes a crx si heavier than an hf (no bull)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by no bull »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would just keep the si</TD></TR></TABLE>
way to bring back an old and tired thread.
BTW, it's been covered before.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=650219
/thread
way to bring back an old and tired thread.BTW, it's been covered before.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=650219
/thread
10-04-2007, 12:23 AM
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Re: what makes a crx si heavier than an hf (STREETWERKZ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STREETWERKZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
way to bring back an old and tired thread.
/thread</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're slippin my ninja....this is a 09/07 thread. Whats wrong wit ya?
way to bring back an old and tired thread./thread</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're slippin my ninja....this is a 09/07 thread. Whats wrong wit ya?