RandyB

in a recent issue of honda tuning greg leone from mtv's street racing show had a artical on doing a budget d series t25 eclipse turbo setup. total cost was like 250-500. do you think this setup will work on a zc? personally i don't see why it would'nt and i'm pretty sure the d15b exhaust manifold will bolt onto the zc.

itsallmotor

yes it will work, my friend was going to do it to his CRX(w/ ZC), may it rest in peace, until a dumb redneck hit it a couple months ago, but yeah I've been tossing the idea around, I think for guys like us that don't have the hook ups that a guy like greg does that its gonna be a little more expensive but its still a very economical way to go, the other thing is its becoming a more and more popular thing to do so those exhaust manifolds will probably become more in demand and cost more, kinda like B20/B18a/b blocks

RandyB

well he had a stock d15 engine which i don't know the stock horsepower and he dynoed like 172.7 whhel hp and 167.1 ft lb at the wheel at only 6 psi. my friend you add that to a 1800-2000 lb car and that is a freakin sweet ride and cheap too. i wonder what the potential is with the zc a 130 hp engine. i have a 89 crx si and the engine is smoking a bit and needs new clutch so i'm just gonna get the engine and ecu and use the stock si tranny with a stage 2 or 3 cluth masters clutch. it should equal quite an impressive setup. i don't think it will be nothing super fast but it will be fun as hell to drive top all of that off with a sweet greddy type s bov for the sweet *** sound and put it on the road.

GT's look out your fate has just been dealt

ScottEK

Man Greg Leone is awsome for telling us about this, I really don't get how people on this board can never come across homemadeturbo stuff until it's in Import Tuner or Super Street. Check out http://www.homemadeturbo.com for people who have been doing it for years.

Kyo Babic

ok something that know one seems to say, but with a front mount intercooler, can the bumper reinforcement bolt right back up? or do you have to mod/grind the reinforement to make it fit right(ie enough room for the intercooler)?

88ZCRX

I am prety sure there is a "little" modification needed to get it to fit just right.

RandyB

sorry if this concept is years old but i just got a 89 crx si and i just heard of it, this site is about tech info not someone's opinion on how old something is. someone who had no clue about this concept will read this post and have a whoop *** ride for like $500. and that is cool for some people who don't have daddy or mommy paying their bills.

i think this is a cool idea and can't wait to do it. if the stock 1.5 sohc could handle 6 psi safely what do you think a zc could handle? also what is the stock horsepower of a d15 hf motor?

blackZC (W)

all d series handle the same , about 200-210.hp
it will take less boost of course with the ZC..and once you get over 8-9 psi you start running into the MAP sensor crap..so a ZC with about 8psi would be cheap.

RandyB

with 180 wheel hp in a 89 crx what 1/8 mile and 1/4 mile times should i expect. my car is tubbed except for the dash and door panels and seats

redzcstandardhatch

"tubbed"? that sounds so cool.....seriously....i wanna tub a front driver.......

jspek29

i workin on mine right know, total cost is gonna be about 850.00 , research everything b4 u try to do it, there is alot of stuff he didnt put on the mag

G2turbo_terror

The worst part about these set ups is everyone thinks they can get parts for dirt cheap but in reality the demand for this junk is driving the prices up, way beyond their worth. Ex; star-quest ICs are now way overpriced and people buying HF manifolds for 75 is hillaroius.

Know what your getting into and don't use that mag as a primary source of info.

Shawn C

iTrader: (1)

he did the setup on a D16A6, not a D15. and it doesn't cost that much, you just have to find a junkyard who doesn't care about stuff like that. in my case, I'm thinking about just pulling off everything from my eclipse . I'll definitely do it when i get the turbo upgrade kit for it. That was a very interesting article, though

RandyB

it is a cheap upgrade and a good one for someone on a budget, and honestly for the money i am saving i will definately take running into a few problems over shelling out 1500-2000 for something that is equal. the key is like someone earlier said find a yard that is'nt jacking the prices so much. does anybody have any idea as to what times i should run.

Spaceballsthelunchbox

I think $500 is way too optimistic.
If you want to build a turbo kit that will last and won't blow your engine up in a few weeks you have to spend more than that.
For example: they used an FMU to boost fuel pressure at the rail, you need a more powerful pump in order to do that, the stock pump will not cut it.
Plan on spending anywhere from $90 to $150 for a good one.

FMU's don't grow on trees, expect to pay $60 to $100

A good condition turbo with a tight shaft and free of cracks is not going to come dirt cheap. Maybe some one will get lucky, but for most of us we can spend from $100 to $200 for a good one.

An HF manifold is cheap, but it is really not ideal for the job.

Piping, if you have a welder and you are good at welding, you might save a few bucks on this, but if you are like most of us, you will end up paying someone to weld your charge pipes. then add hose connectors, clamps the pipes themselves plus welding, it can get expensive.

Fittings. You have to get oil to the turbo and out of it. Fitings that don't leak or break when the engine moves are not cheap. I have seen brass fitings that didn't take the daily beating and gave up in a rather ugly way.

The oil pan has to be drilled and then a return fitting welded, again if you don't weld you'll have to pay to get that done, plus the fitting is not free.

You will need a boost gauge, more money there.

You will need a blow off valve, even the mitsu ones are going for upwards of $50

Plus expect to cut and grind to make every thing fit.
I say realistically you should plan to spend about $800 to $900 to get a "decent" turbo kit. I have been through that a few times already.

RandyB

well i guess me having the hook up on alot of parts and labor makes it look like a kick *** deal for me but it is an easy set up for just about anyone to do. you are totally right there is alot that goes into it but i do think it is still worth it for the money.

dgonzals

I think custom homemade turbos are the best, but they are less reliable. If you dont really care then go for it. Other then that I would go with one of the major turbo setup companies...

jspek29

my shopping list
t25 turbo with smic 200.00 shipped dsmtrader.com
fmu, and missing link 168.00 shipped ebay
cf boost controller, cf af ratio , pod 150.00 performance shop
cx mainifold , 0.00 had one laying around
2.25 exhaust piping bent to the way i want it,(charge pipes) local exhaust shop 30.00
2.25 rubber hose 1 foot (connectors) 15.00
silicon hose 2.5 (in think) to 2.00 connection throttle body to charge pipe 20.00
adapter plate 65.00 custom made
total 628.00
still need
oil line kit 65.00
filter 20.00
down pipe 20.00
i didnt use the check valves like he did in the article because they look funny and i heard inconsistent, to get charge pipes just take a coat hanger and bend them the way you want it and take it to an exhaust shop and have it bent like it., for the down pipe i got a exhaust from a mitsi dealer that had a bunch of them from defect and cutted the flange off. and another thing the oil pan is a pain to get off because u have to loose one of the motor mounts and jack the engine up to get some bolts. dont forget the cost of gaskets and other stuff, just thought i would share my project

sporkcrx

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and another thing the oil pan is a pain to get off because u have to loose one of the motor mounts and jack the engine up to get some bolts. dont forget the cost of gaskets and other stuff, just thought i would share my project </TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't know about other engines, but I've dropped pans on a6's and b20's, and i didn't touch any motor mounts.

Spaceballsthelunchbox

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jspek29 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my shopping list
t25 turbo with smic 200.00 shipped dsmtrader.com
fmu, and missing link 168.00 shipped ebay
cf boost controller, cf af ratio , pod 150.00 performance shop
cx mainifold , 0.00 had one laying around
2.25 exhaust piping bent to the way i want it,(charge pipes) local exhaust shop 30.00
2.25 rubber hose 1 foot (connectors) 15.00
silicon hose 2.5 (in think) to 2.00 connection throttle body to charge pipe 20.00
adapter plate 65.00 custom made
total 628.00
still need
oil line kit 65.00
filter 20.00
down pipe 20.00
i didnt use the check valves like he did in the article because they look funny and i heard inconsistent, to get charge pipes just take a coat hanger and bend them the way you want it and take it to an exhaust shop and have it bent like it., for the down pipe i got a exhaust from a mitsi dealer that had a bunch of them from defect and cutted the flange off. and another thing the oil pan is a pain to get off because u have to loose one of the motor mounts and jack the engine up to get some bolts. dont forget the cost of gaskets and other stuff, just thought i would share my project
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So, no intercooler, no blow off valve, and you are going to use the FMU with the stock pump?
That's not a very good set up.

jspek29

2nd line says"t25 turbo with smic 200.00 shipped dsmtrader.com" I quess u didnt know that smic means (side mount intercooler) and forgot to list the 1st gen bov that i got of ebay.