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Old 09-21-2011, 08:07 PM
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ok so i want to do this i just have no clue how to start

i want to eliminate using a key to start the car i would like to have two switches and a push button to start one switch would be like turning the key into the acc. position and the other switch into the "on" position and a push button to start the car
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because i just have the idea but im lost lolz
Old 09-22-2011, 01:08 AM
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Not sure how to do this, but doesn't seem too smart. Like if someone somehow knew where both the switches were they could take your car any ol' time without your consent.
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A better, but still questionable solution would be to still have the key in the mix...to access the first and second positions, THEN an actual starter button you can hide. This way a key is still ultimately needed to start the car despite it now being a push button.

In the ignition harness (I'd advise using a test light), there will be 4 wires. 1-Constant 12, 1-accessory wire, 3-1 ignition wire that works in tandem with 4)12-to-starter wire. Using ur test light to find 3-4 is needed, these will ONLY show 12v when the car is turned to the on position, and it's be between THOSE wires that you'll have to wire in your button/switch, It's early, I don't remember the colors but u can google it.
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S2K start button,been done... (still have key tho + steering lock) or remove steering lock + key cylinder assmbly + install S2K sw there (wat I'm wanna do,or biometric start Ha!)
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or use a keyless entry unit with some relays. you hit unlock to engage power to the switches, and lock to make them dead. i plan to use my remote for fuel/ecu kills.
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Originally Posted by zrickety
or use a keyless entry unit with some relays. you hit unlock to engage power to the switches, and lock to make them dead. i plan to use my remote for fuel/ecu kills.
It will probably be better if the kill switches are independent of the alarm and are nowhere near the alarm. The logic is that a thief will have to disable the alarm either way, only your way, he may very well disable the alarm and your kill switch at the same time.

vs.

Independent hidden kill switch once he bypasses the alarm, he will be clueless where to start trying to figure out what is happening. This will add another layer of complexity and time to the mix.
Old 09-23-2011, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by gringo7718
It will probably be better if the kill switches are independent of the alarm and are nowhere near the alarm. The logic is that a thief will have to disable the alarm either way, only your way, he may very well disable the alarm and your kill switch at the same time.

vs.

Independent hidden kill switch once he bypasses the alarm, he will be clueless where to start trying to figure out what is happening. This will add another layer of complexity and time to the mix.
X2! Theifs will always be smarter than alarms its time that saves our beloved cars! Gl let us know how it turns out if you end up doing it!
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what i was saying is to layer the kill switch with the alarm. the kill switch would not enable the car until the alarm was disarmed and doors unlocked. relays, wires, and switches can all be hidden.
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well the car has door poppers so there is no handles for one and i do have a hidden fuel pump cut off switch

i just wana figure out how i could wire it all up lolz
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does anyone know where i can get the harness wiring diagram
i cant find it anywhere
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Originally Posted by zrickety
what i was saying is to layer the kill switch with the alarm. the kill switch would not enable the car until the alarm was disarmed and doors unlocked. relays, wires, and switches can all be hidden.
exactly and with a stealth alarm install and a back-up battery for the alarm, it's hard to disable it. Especially when you have sirens under the seats + outside the car. it all really depends on your location though, I guess.
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exactly and with a stealth alarm install and a back-up battery for the alarm, it's hard to disable it. Especially when you have sirens under the seats + outside the car. it all really depends on your location though, I guess.
LMFAO it would be hilarious to connect the alarm sirens to the car speakers
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LMFAO it would be hilarious to connect the alarm sirens to the car speakers
and Mace* triggered to go off and spray through the vents...
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and Mace* triggered to go off and spray through the vents...
haha 007 much ;P
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Default Re: ignition key elimination

I wanted to do something similar and found a write up on some mustang forum awhile ago.. But it didn't have pictures but he did the same thing to his two switches then a push button start
Old 09-26-2011, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by stackedhouse
I wanted to do something similar and found a write up on some mustang forum awhile ago.. But it didn't have pictures but he did the same thing to his two switches then a push button start
thats what i want to do but i cant find a diagram anywhere so i guess ima just mix and match with a volt meter and see what happens lmao
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You can download a fsm from hondahookup.com
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Originally Posted by 912fourtysx
You can download a fsm from hondahookup.com
couldn't find anything on wiring :/
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Originally Posted by Exelbaradin
couldn't find anything on wiring :/
Helms manuals all over the inet,(probably on this site somehwere) But I uZe spoonertuner.com (look under manuals) + ur welcome...
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Originally Posted by BiGZ
Helms manuals all over the inet,(probably on this site somehwere) But I uZe spoonertuner.com (look under manuals) + ur welcome...
omg thnx i spent forever looking for that stupid diagram
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this is exactly what i was looking for thanx to BIGZ
now to figure out how to wire up my two switches and push button


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