erplacing front end
02-26-2007, 07:05 AM
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replacing front end
alright, so my daily driver seems to have been in a front passengar side fender bender at some point in its lifetime making the right head light crooked and the bumper not lign up right, this annoys me so much, and i have a parts car that has a good condition front end.
so i was wondering how much work would it be to put this front end:
onto this car:
you can see how badly the turn signals and everything lines up.
would i just need to swap the very front radiator suport, and headlight bezels?
so i was wondering how much work would it be to put this front end:
onto this car:
you can see how badly the turn signals and everything lines up.
would i just need to swap the very front radiator suport, and headlight bezels?
02-26-2007, 07:33 AM
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Re: replacing front end (stemiched)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stemiched »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
would i just need to swap the very front radiator suport, and headlight bezels?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep...It looks as if your core support is bent. The are usually just spot welded in. Get a drill and tap them out to remove the old panel.
would i just need to swap the very front radiator suport, and headlight bezels?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep...It looks as if your core support is bent. The are usually just spot welded in. Get a drill and tap them out to remove the old panel.
02-26-2007, 07:46 AM
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Re: replacing front end (harmonator84)
just drill where the spot welds are and then weld it onto the other? what do you mean by tap them out?
02-27-2007, 12:20 PM
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yes drill out the spot welds and pull the core support off.
then do the same with the other car.
then line the straight core support up on your daily driver and weld away.
then do the same with the other car.
then line the straight core support up on your daily driver and weld away.
02-27-2007, 06:09 PM
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alright thanks, people, hopefully ill gets the guts to attempt this this weekend. ill have somewhat professional help to put it on my daily though
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Re: (92civicfreak)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stemiched »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just drill where the spot welds are and then weld it onto the other? what do you mean by tap them out?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sorry I didnt reply sooner. But yes you just drill where you see the spot welds at. Then you will prob have to have a air chiesel to wedge between the two pieces of metal. You may get by without a chiesel but almost every job I have done I have had to use one.
Then while the core is out you want to take a hammer and smooth are your metal back flat. Make sure you gride all the paint off too so when you weld the new piece in you will have good contact.
After all that you should just be able to slide the new support in and reweld where you drilled all your wholes. Grind all your welds down smooth, paint and your done. Good luck, and keep us updated with pics.
Sorry I didnt reply sooner. But yes you just drill where you see the spot welds at. Then you will prob have to have a air chiesel to wedge between the two pieces of metal. You may get by without a chiesel but almost every job I have done I have had to use one.
Then while the core is out you want to take a hammer and smooth are your metal back flat. Make sure you gride all the paint off too so when you weld the new piece in you will have good contact.
After all that you should just be able to slide the new support in and reweld where you drilled all your wholes. Grind all your welds down smooth, paint and your done. Good luck, and keep us updated with pics.
02-27-2007, 06:52 PM
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Re: (harmonator84)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92civicfreak »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i say go all the way & a JDM front end</TD></TR></TABLE>
this cite seems to not realize that some people are poor anymore...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by harmonator84 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Sorry I didnt reply sooner. But yes you just drill where you see the spot welds at. Then you will prob have to have a air chiesel to wedge between the two pieces of metal. You may get by without a chiesel but almost every job I have done I have had to use one.
Then while the core is out you want to take a hammer and smooth are your metal back flat. Make sure you gride all the paint off too so when you weld the new piece in you will have good contact.
After all that you should just be able to slide the new support in and reweld where you drilled all your wholes. Grind all your welds down smooth, paint and your done. Good luck, and keep us updated with pics. </TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks that helps a lot, it seems to be pretty easy to do, although i probably wont paint it all right now, just spray primer where its been metal at least until I'm ready to paint the rest of the car anyway...
this cite seems to not realize that some people are poor anymore...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by harmonator84 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Sorry I didnt reply sooner. But yes you just drill where you see the spot welds at. Then you will prob have to have a air chiesel to wedge between the two pieces of metal. You may get by without a chiesel but almost every job I have done I have had to use one.
Then while the core is out you want to take a hammer and smooth are your metal back flat. Make sure you gride all the paint off too so when you weld the new piece in you will have good contact.
After all that you should just be able to slide the new support in and reweld where you drilled all your wholes. Grind all your welds down smooth, paint and your done. Good luck, and keep us updated with pics.
</TD></TR></TABLE>thanks that helps a lot, it seems to be pretty easy to do, although i probably wont paint it all right now, just spray primer where its been metal at least until I'm ready to paint the rest of the car anyway...
02-27-2007, 07:01 PM
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Re: (stemiched)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stemiched »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this cite seems to not realize that some people are poor anymore...
thanks that helps a lot, it seems to be pretty easy to do, although i probably wont paint it all right now, just spray primer where its been metal at least until I'm ready to paint the rest of the car anyway...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not a problem. It isnt going to be a easy job. I know it sounds easy but I have ran across some problems when doing this. Usually its just something small like you cannot find all the welds or even after you have all the welds out the support still will not come out. I have seen some cases where when you get the old support out the new one will not fit in. A little trick I learned it to weld a bar across your engine bay from one fender to the other. That way your fenders dont flex...because all it takes is for them to cave in 1 inch to have a problem. Here is alittle pic if you dont know what I mean...
thanks that helps a lot, it seems to be pretty easy to do, although i probably wont paint it all right now, just spray primer where its been metal at least until I'm ready to paint the rest of the car anyway...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not a problem. It isnt going to be a easy job. I know it sounds easy but I have ran across some problems when doing this. Usually its just something small like you cannot find all the welds or even after you have all the welds out the support still will not come out. I have seen some cases where when you get the old support out the new one will not fit in. A little trick I learned it to weld a bar across your engine bay from one fender to the other. That way your fenders dont flex...because all it takes is for them to cave in 1 inch to have a problem. Here is alittle pic if you dont know what I mean...
02-27-2007, 07:15 PM
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Re: (harmonator84)
wont that get in the way of something like the hood closing, radiator, or something...
welding a bar there would also help for alignment and what not as well wouldn't it?
i wouldn't be surprised if my passenger fender is out of whack also though...
welding a bar there would also help for alignment and what not as well wouldn't it?
i wouldn't be surprised if my passenger fender is out of whack also though...
02-27-2007, 07:24 PM
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Re: (stemiched)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stemiched »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wont that get in the way of something like the hood closing, radiator, or something...
welding a bar there would also help for alignment and what not as well wouldn't it?
i wouldn't be surprised if my passenger fender is out of whack also though...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well when you got done welding the core support in you would remove the bar and grind your welds off your fender. Its just there to help so your alignment doesnt get off track.
welding a bar there would also help for alignment and what not as well wouldn't it?
i wouldn't be surprised if my passenger fender is out of whack also though...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well when you got done welding the core support in you would remove the bar and grind your welds off your fender. Its just there to help so your alignment doesnt get off track.
02-27-2007, 07:37 PM
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alright, i was thinking you would take it out but you didnt mention that...
would this be a job that an unexperienced person helping an experienced person do in 1 day so that the unexperienced person could drive the car home that night?
would this be a job that an unexperienced person helping an experienced person do in 1 day so that the unexperienced person could drive the car home that night?
02-27-2007, 11:35 PM
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The job could be done in one day. I have done this many of times and its never taking VERY long. Still I have seen some cases where I have ran across problems. If it was me I would take my time though and not try to rush.
02-28-2007, 04:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by harmonator84 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The job could be done in one day. I have done this many of times and its never taking VERY long. Still I have seen some cases where I have ran across problems. If it was me I would take my time though and not try to rush. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yea i dont plan on rushing it, but i do have to drive the car the next day, seeing how it is my daily driven car and i dont have a second
yea i dont plan on rushing it, but i do have to drive the car the next day, seeing how it is my daily driven car and i dont have a second
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stemiched »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea i dont plan on rushing it, but i do have to drive the car the next day, seeing how it is my daily driven car and i dont have a second</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're not going to get it done. It sounds like you're very inexperienced at this sort of thing, and this is not a simple task. I would suggest not starting such a project until the weekend or whenever you don't have to be at work the next morning.
Why are you bothering with this anyway? For a beater daily-driver like that, I don't see a point to it. Just leave the lights crooked and drive it until it dies (which in PA won't be very long). The best advice I can give you is to spend your money/time/effort on something else, and just leave it alone.
You're not going to get it done. It sounds like you're very inexperienced at this sort of thing, and this is not a simple task. I would suggest not starting such a project until the weekend or whenever you don't have to be at work the next morning.
Why are you bothering with this anyway? For a beater daily-driver like that, I don't see a point to it. Just leave the lights crooked and drive it until it dies (which in PA won't be very long). The best advice I can give you is to spend your money/time/effort on something else, and just leave it alone.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're not going to get it done. It sounds like you're very inexperienced at this sort of thing, and this is not a simple task. I would suggest not starting such a project until the weekend or whenever you don't have to be at work the next morning.
Why are you bothering with this anyway? For a beater daily-driver like that, I don't see a point to it. Just leave the lights crooked and drive it until it dies (which in PA won't be very long). The best advice I can give you is to spend your money/time/effort on something else, and just leave it alone.</TD></TR></TABLE>
okay thanks for the complete shut down...
for your information this is my daily driver but i still want it too look nice, i have been working on a paint job and just put in an sohc zc and mpfi swap with 40k miles on it and am working on gathering parts for a turbo build...
some of us cant afford a second car but still love are cars to death so we make our daily look nice.
thank you very much!
Why are you bothering with this anyway? For a beater daily-driver like that, I don't see a point to it. Just leave the lights crooked and drive it until it dies (which in PA won't be very long). The best advice I can give you is to spend your money/time/effort on something else, and just leave it alone.</TD></TR></TABLE>
okay thanks for the complete shut down...
for your information this is my daily driver but i still want it too look nice, i have been working on a paint job and just put in an sohc zc and mpfi swap with 40k miles on it and am working on gathering parts for a turbo build...
some of us cant afford a second car but still love are cars to death so we make our daily look nice.
thank you very much!
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