Jonathan_ED3

UPDATE 3/2/08: I do not have the original pics - see this thread by BrakeExpert if you want to check out pics https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1484555

Well guys...you'll be glad to hear that it isn't necessary to hunt down those scarce EX knuckles to upgrade to 10.2" brakes. This bolts onto the non-EX 88-91 Civic/CRX knuckles!

Want to know how it's done?

Read on below to discover the beauty of the Jonathan Mod/sarcasm

Parts list:

-'91 Civic EX Brake rotors...same as 92-95 Civic Sedan rotors ($14.99 each at Pep Boys; probably cheaper at AutoZone)

- Accord Wagon Brake Calipers (will be stamped 17CL15VN; ~$50 rebuilt at Pep Boys). These are the exact same calipers as the ITR, Legend, Prelude VTEC etc. Great stopping power!

- Accord Wagon, Prelude VTEC (etc) Brake Caliper mount stamped 25T (a 23T bracket exists, but I can't promise you it will work). This is what came stock on the Accord Wagon.

- 1/8" wheel spacer OR grind ~1/8th" (2.5-3mm) off of the caliper mounting bracket. If you are familiar with the 11" brake upgrade, this is the same modification necessary.

Now, the installation...

First, you need to place the wheel spacer (or washers if you're ghetto) between the hub and your new 10.2" brake rotor.

OR shave off the ~1/8" necessary from the caliper bracket

Next, Install your rotor, mount the caliper, load the pads....(you know how to do all this) and enjoy your upgraded brakes!!!

I tested these with my two pair of 15" wheels and they fit just fine. If any of you have 14" wheels, you may want to see if they'll clear. They may not.

So you end up with the same rotor surface area as the Integra/EX upgrade, but you're upgrading to ITR quality calipers, larger pads etc. Not too shabby!

The proof is in the pudding....

Note that in these pictures I've got a ~1/10" (2.5mm) spacer between the rotor and the hub. You can instead opt to shave this amount off of the caliper anchor bracket if you don't want to run a spacer










Modified by Jonathan_ED3 at 9:23 PM 3/2/2008


Modified by Jonathan_ED3 at 9:23 PM 3/2/2008


Modified by Jonathan_ED3 at 9:24 PM 3/2/2008

APEX CRX

awesome !!! never saw this setup before

pwrofdrm

YES!!!

Jonathan_ED3

I don't think anybody has. I brainstormed this one myself.

Although I'm sure now guys are going to post and say 'Yeah, I did this before' even though there's no record of this setup anywhere in the archives.

Outsane

So this fits under a 14" rim?

TIRENECK

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im thinking NO.

Jonathan_ED3

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Did you even read my post?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonathan_ED3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I tested these with my two pair of 15" wheels and they fit just fine. If any of you have 14" wheels, you may want to see if they'll clear. They may not.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't have any 14" wheels to test this out on, so I make no promises.

dr_latino999

Yippie!!! This seriously makes the whole month of March.

crxkane

great work on the parts needed, now i just need to go and get them

Jonathan_ED3

Just an FYI for you guys.

Most auto places don't sell rebuilt calipers with the bracket.

However, I have been told Napa carries "loaded" calipers which means they come with the actual caliper as well as the anchor/bracket.

You can always source them at the junkyard.

Remember....these calipers came on the ITR, Accord Wagon, Accord V6, 92+ Legend, Prelude VTEC...and I'm sure a few other cars.

Malachi_

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cool

2 0 3

Napa does indeed sell them as a loaded caliper set. bought a set the other day. came with caliper pads and bracket.

Quik89Si

Very good info!

Alex

Chronicsinners

thats awesome, i really hope they fit under 14" rims

Chronicsinners

what year of accord wagon???

crxgator

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any they are all the same...

PaImportTuner

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I don't think anybody has. I brainstormed this one myself.

Although I'm sure now guys are going to post and say 'Yeah, I did this before' even though there's no record of this setup anywhere in the archives.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i highly doubt your the only 1 to think of this if you search i remember somone posting saying you could shave the bracket and bit of the caliber. i would say your the first 1 to have patience and time to write this up. I for 1 know that this would fit and you dont need knuckles. but i'm too lazy to shave meat off bracket and i really dont like wheel spacers unless in the rear.
**** i can lock my brakes up with stock system, stock 90 DX rotors and drums, they stop PFG(pretty ******* good) as is with b16, 205/50 kuhmos and stress i put on them like autox and backroad runs. i couldnt imagine these brakes on my ride.

this is an upgrade when your brake system takes a ****/replacement. or if your doing 90mph+ everyday constantly

ELAMINT5

HOLY SH*T, how did you even think to put all this together. GREAT FIND

GSRCRXsi

yes... im doing this on the crx. only problem is, i need to know if it will clear a 14" rim, maybe if you grind some caliper off. only other thing im worried about is how much wieght this will add





Modified by GSRCRXsi at 1:04 PM 3/7/2005

mike-y

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PaImportTuner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i highly doubt your the only 1 to think of this if you search i remember somone posting saying you could shave the bracket and bit of the caliber. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes, but there are actually a couple of different reasons for shaving the caliper bracket (mostly for fitting certain OEM wheels onto 10.3" brake setups, and getting the larger caliper to work on the integra knuckle). This is the first time I've actually seen this combination caliper/rotor size on the 9.5" civic knuckle though.

Nice work Jon. This would be the setup I would use if I didn't already find a set of SiR knucles/brakes.

GSRCRXsi

anyone have the link to the thread about shaving the caliper bracket? i remmeber there was a thread and a guy had it milled and showed a pic. i want to see that, i cant find it.

GSRCRXsi

one more thing i noticed. it looks like you have that caliper on the wrong side, lol. i noticed this becasue the writing is upside down and the brake host connection is all wrong. am i right ?

Jonathan_ED3

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PaImportTuner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i highly doubt your the only 1 to think of this if you search i remember somone posting saying you could shave the bracket and bit of the caliber. i would say your the first 1 to have patience and time to write this up. I for 1 know that this would fit and you dont need knuckles. but i'm too lazy to shave meat off bracket and i really dont like wheel spacers unless in the rear.
**** i can lock my brakes up with stock system, stock 90 DX rotors and drums, they stop PFG(pretty ******* good) as is with b16, 205/50 kuhmos and stress i put on them like autox and backroad runs. i couldnt imagine these brakes on my ride.

this is an upgrade when your brake system takes a ****/replacement. or if your doing 90mph+ everyday constantly
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Why are you trying to diss on me? I don't get it.

I've searched high and low...and I've never seen this setup posted.

Please show me exactly where this setup was posted in the past! I want to see it!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRCRXsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">one more thing i noticed. it looks like you have that caliper on the wrong side, lol. i noticed this becasue the writing is upside down and the brake host connection is all wrong. am i right ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It very well may be...I just grabbed the first caliper I came to in my room. But as i'm sure you know, it makes no difference (for the test fitment procedures)

EJ2-Fluffy

iTrader: (1)

Nice

manson

awesome work!