Corksil

Hey HT. I am doing a brake line tuck. I am relocating my prop valve into the cabin on the firewall. I have two options to accomplish this.

I can

1) Use stainless steel braided flexible line and the appropriate adapters and fittings (AN.)
-----------------or-----------------
2) Bend NEW custom hardlines (into the cabin) with a tubing bender and flaring tool.

Which will give me better brake pedal feel and higher braking performance?

**I have a 1inch MC and oversized booster, 11.1" front and 10.3" rear disc brakes with SS lines instead of OEM rubber flex lines.**

Corksil

If I use flexible braided lines for all of it, I'll use earl's lines and fittings. (decent quality)

Hidenplanvew

I just used a roll from Napa and got the fittings I needed...

Corksil

How?

Corksil

Bump......

which is better for rebuilding brake lines?

oem-type hardline or stainless braided flexible?

apexi_rsx

chase bays lines are flexible black high pressure type lines. im not too sure braided line will hold up.

Corksil

so you say I'd be better off just bending custom hardlines to do the tuck?

i need ideas..

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

Ideas?
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-acura-28/shaved-tucked-customized-engine-bays-pics-theory-discussion-1693934/
If you can't find any in this thread then there's no hope for you. It's almost 1300 pages long.

dwkt

cant air get inside braided lines easier?

Corksil

Maybe I shouldn't have said 'ideas.'

So....

SS braided or custom-bent hardlines?

Corksil

dwkt - I haven't heard about air getting into ss braided but i would be interested to know if you find anything.

apexi_rsx

something like this would work great u can buy the fittings to install on the hydraulic line and have federated auto parts press the hydraulic fittings on. or talk to these guys on what lengths you need.http://www.ebay.com/itm/Avid-Code-Hy...item53eaa5ef6f

or do it the expensive but easiest way(the way i did mine) and buy this... the kit fit and works great...http://www.chasebays.com/product/hon...--9401-integra

Corksil

That AVID hydraulic line you posted looks like a bicycle part. I'm not sure how much pressure disc brakes on a bike have to withstand but the brake lines on our hondas experience 1700psi +/- when you stomp on the brakes. I heard that specification in regards to oem braking system. When you throw a 1" MC and oversized booster in there, I imagine it's more than 1700psi.

Yeah the kit was what sparked my interest, but buying the kit itself just feels like sending my friend to the store with a part list and paying him 200usd to find all the parts and buy them with my money and bring them too me.... just a little too pricey.

I've decided to do hardlines from the local store w/10mm x 1.0 metric flare nuts and buy a tubing bender/flaring tool. Then atleast I get to keep the tools when I'm done..

thanks for the help dude

jbpnoman

No. Just...no. Here, educate yourself a little.

Hidenplanvew

What kind of cash are we talking? Steal braded in custom lengths could get exspensive in 1 line.. I think last i heard was 12 bucks a foot or something like that... A roll of hard line was like 20 bucks for 50 feet, fittings were a few cents each, bending tool was like 15 bucks and flair tool was like 30 i think

NotAJDMFanBoy

Hard line will be better for this. Cheaper, stiff, won't abraid anything that touches it, and you can flare it and screw right into other things instead of having to go from 1mm x 1.0 to -3 and then back on the other side of the hose. AN fittings add up quick.

I like flex lines for things that need to flex or if it's something temporary or just can't really make it something stiff easily. I have a flex line for my clutch line, turbo oil feed and my oil drain line. They're not bad, I'd have rather ran a solid oil feed though is all. I'll do that on my gt3071 though.

Corksil

**** welcome to maui...

flaring tool 60
bending tool 55

hard line about 1$/ft..

the fittings aren't cheap either..

and trust me i shop around.

btw i've done research and i'm liking the hardline method. i'm not goin for bling, no one pops the hood but me for oil changes.

i've also heard that hardlines will give better pedal feel and performance. none of that spongy feel for me, hardlines all the way. only braided line i will have is between hardlines and the calipers.

it's a toss up between 11.1 front and 10.3 rear discs....... OR 10.3 front and 9.5 rear disc.

I have the parts for both (almost) but there comes a point on an 1800lb car.... what is considered OVERKILL and what's considered SHOW.

I like big rotors under my RPF1s, but beyond a point it's just adding weight to the rotating assembly. And we all know that unsprung mass and sprung mass are exponentionally more parasitic on power..

i just wish there was a market for custom fabrication here, because after teaching myself all this **** and buying the tools - it'd be nice to make somethin for someone else to help cover expenses.

the only popular hondas around here are the ones that have been stolen and reported.

come steal my honda.. i dare ya :D (not my actual dog)


insomnia and paranoia are a b!tch... and no silencers aren't legal around here. who cares?


thanks for the shouts

Corksil

yeh AN adds up REAL quick. cheaper to go buy the hardline flaring/bending tools...

i'm gonna make a hardline for my hydro clutch conversion too :D

no turbos here.

thanks for the halps!

Corksil

Will this flaring tool work for making new hardlines?

Texas4door

Holy ****, look at that roidasaurus dog!
Sorry, but it's 2 AM, I'm tired, and that made me laugh the hardest all day!
XD;

But holy hell, parts are expensive there!!
OO
....you know, ya might wanna find that roidasaurus pooch after all if just the tools are that much $$

Corksil

Don't laugh too hard. You might die. Come at me, bro.

serversurfer

FYI, AutoZone will ship both tools and 25 ft. of steel brake line to Kihei for $58.

Edit: Does your sig say you have eight minivans??

Corksil

@ server - I can't seem to find tubing on the autozone site... i put together a shipped order (with a tubing bender and flaring tool) for 45 bucks however.

back to original question.... will this tool work for flaring my brake lines?

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

No. You use it to make pizzas. Of course it will flare lines.

Corksil

@grumpy - this is the internet. people don't research things. they simply ask redundant questions of other people who haven't researched things.

i understand there are different types of flares. there are double flares and single flares.

i don't know which type honda 3/16" brake hard lines are. will this tool adequately flare 3/16" honda brake hard lines?

What you see is what you get. there are no other pieces.

side note - the tool has different sized holes labeled with their respective sizes. One of the holes says "3/16"

thanks.