90-93 integra shocks fit 89-91 civic hb?
08-30-2008, 03:34 PM
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90-93 integra shocks fit 89-91 civic hb?
Hey everyone. I was wondering if 90-93 integra tokico illuminas would fit a 89-91 civic hatchback? they come with ground control coilovers sleeves, and i was wondering how low i can go with them? will they even fit? I want to be able to tuck my tires and almost slam my car.
Heres an old quote i found when i used the search button. they only mention tokico blues and i was wondering if it accounts for illuminas as well. just want to make sure before i purchase them. thanks in advanced.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Quote, originally posted by BEN »
Shocks/forks:
You can use DA front shocks with no modification. The only problem is that they are around 1" longer in the body (stock vs stock) and that means less travel in your lowered car. It seems, though, that many aftermarket companies feel that the DA and EF shocks are so similar that there is no need to make two different products. Examples include the tokico blues shown below and kyb AGXs (same part number). I had AGXs and they were longer than my stock EF shocks, shorter than my stock DA shocks, and 1/2" longer than my EF Koni Yellows. Odd, eh?
The Shocks (originally Loc's pics from b17a.com):
You can also use EG/DC shocks (EG shocks are exactly the same as DC shocks) if you feel so inclined. All you need to do is use EG/DC forks. Heres what Gordon Benson at koni has to say about the front EG/DC shocks vs DA and EF shocks (koni yellows anyway):
"The valving for all of those applications are different because they are all for different vehicles. When we create a valving for a shock, we tailor it to the needs of that car and not try to fit one valving for many. Of these ones you listed, the 90-93 Integra is firmest in compression and rebound. The 94+ Integra (and 92-00 Civic) is about the same in rebound but slightly softer in compression and the 88-91 Civic is valved the "softest" though it isn't by a lot."
Then more specifically the EF vs EG koni shock:
"...the biggest change with the 88-91 and the 92-00 Civic is that the lower "wishbone" (what the shocks go into on the bottom) is smaller on the 88-91 cars. This can be interchanged though the lengths and the valving between the 2 Civic applications isn't worth the work. The valving is basically identical and the lengths are less than a half inch of each other."
The EF and DA forks are exactly the same and so are the EG and DC and all 4 of them have the same height (no matter what anyone tells you). EF/DA fork on left, EG/DC fork on right:
The only difference between the EF/DA forks and the EG/DC forks is that the EG/DC forks have an inside diameter .15" larger than the EF/DA forks. This is because the EG/DC shocks are fatter than their EF counterparts.
With a little fork modification it is possible to use the DC/EG forks with EF shocks and gain around ¾" of shock travel by slipping the fork OVER the bottom of the brake line bracket. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Modified by shinjitai at 4:41 PM 8/30/2008
Modified by shinjitai at 5:05 PM 8/30/2008
Heres an old quote i found when i used the search button. they only mention tokico blues and i was wondering if it accounts for illuminas as well. just want to make sure before i purchase them. thanks in advanced.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Quote, originally posted by BEN »
Shocks/forks:
You can use DA front shocks with no modification. The only problem is that they are around 1" longer in the body (stock vs stock) and that means less travel in your lowered car. It seems, though, that many aftermarket companies feel that the DA and EF shocks are so similar that there is no need to make two different products. Examples include the tokico blues shown below and kyb AGXs (same part number). I had AGXs and they were longer than my stock EF shocks, shorter than my stock DA shocks, and 1/2" longer than my EF Koni Yellows. Odd, eh?
The Shocks (originally Loc's pics from b17a.com):
You can also use EG/DC shocks (EG shocks are exactly the same as DC shocks) if you feel so inclined. All you need to do is use EG/DC forks. Heres what Gordon Benson at koni has to say about the front EG/DC shocks vs DA and EF shocks (koni yellows anyway):
"The valving for all of those applications are different because they are all for different vehicles. When we create a valving for a shock, we tailor it to the needs of that car and not try to fit one valving for many. Of these ones you listed, the 90-93 Integra is firmest in compression and rebound. The 94+ Integra (and 92-00 Civic) is about the same in rebound but slightly softer in compression and the 88-91 Civic is valved the "softest" though it isn't by a lot."
Then more specifically the EF vs EG koni shock:
"...the biggest change with the 88-91 and the 92-00 Civic is that the lower "wishbone" (what the shocks go into on the bottom) is smaller on the 88-91 cars. This can be interchanged though the lengths and the valving between the 2 Civic applications isn't worth the work. The valving is basically identical and the lengths are less than a half inch of each other."
The EF and DA forks are exactly the same and so are the EG and DC and all 4 of them have the same height (no matter what anyone tells you). EF/DA fork on left, EG/DC fork on right:
The only difference between the EF/DA forks and the EG/DC forks is that the EG/DC forks have an inside diameter .15" larger than the EF/DA forks. This is because the EG/DC shocks are fatter than their EF counterparts.
With a little fork modification it is possible to use the DC/EG forks with EF shocks and gain around ¾" of shock travel by slipping the fork OVER the bottom of the brake line bracket. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Modified by shinjitai at 4:41 PM 8/30/2008
Modified by shinjitai at 5:05 PM 8/30/2008
08-30-2008, 07:31 PM
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Re: 90-93 integra shocks fit 89-91 civic hb? (shinjitai)
I am pretty sure that the front shocks will work on the EF from the DA, but I am not sure about the back. I know that some (if not all) the Integras have the rear shock that goes in between the lower control arm (like a 1988 civic). So if the Integra rear shocks go inbetween the control arms, just get 1988 Civic rear control arms. As far as the ride height, I would just lower it as much as I could without bottoming out the shock. Also, you might want to ask about the control arms because the diameter of the rear shock from the DA might be too big and not able to fit into the 1988 rear control arms.
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can anyone confirm this? i know that 88 civics and 89-91 have different rear lower control arms. so does that mean the 90-93 integra rear shocks will fit the 88 civics or the 89-91 civics?
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