tmeracz

Searched and found this thread:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=930308

There were a couple references to a bump steer kit at Summit Racing.
On checking it out I found that it:
A) Was really for a Mustang and
B) By design, amplified rather than fixed the problem with regard to tie rod angle

Are there any other solutions out there that anyone has found?

CRX7

Is it possible to just mount the tie rod end below the knuckle instead of on top of it like usual. I figure we'd need to swap the tie rod ends from each side so they don't rub.

Otherwise, all these designs look pretty simple. Drill out your knuckle to fit the aftermarket end.

Amplifying the issue depends, on the pics in that thread they have it mounted above the knuckle, we would want it mounted below the knuckle. Does the same thing, just a different direction.

tmeracz

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Yes, this seems like a viable solution, have you done it? How safe is it?

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I agree, below the knuckle seems like the easiest solution. My only concern is with its solidity and function under repeated stress of hard driving. This kit puts risers on a part that was meant to be torqued directly to the knuckle. How safe is that?

I'm comparing the situation in the ED/EF chassis with that in my 914: the bump steer kit alters the height of the steering rack itself. This seems like a much more solid approach, but is physically impossible given our stock rear crossmember.

I've had that stamped aluminum POS on my ****-list for years now and know several fabricators who would be willing to step up to the plate to build me a tubular rear crossmember. I could account for a mounting height adjustment on the steering rack bolts themselves and solve the problem with longer or shorter bolts and a series of spacers if needed.

My only concern is how changing the rack height would affect the connection of the U-joint to the steering column. Does anyone else see something I might be overlooking?

suspendedHatch

I tried putting the tie rods in through the bottom on my EG, did the alignment, then test drove it. Bumpsteer was vastly amplified. Although, I may not be low enough (-1.75 inches from stock). My primary concern is handling so I'm not going to lower my car more than that.

Thought about custom mounting the rack until I saw what would be required.

tmeracz

Good info- thanks!
I'm not lowered more than you- I take it these risers are too tall & overcompensate for ride height?

What did you do to correct the problem?
Now that you've done it, how do you feel about the strucural integrity of the bump-steer mod in general?

gospeedgo1

thats what the old school vw bug folks do. mount the tie rod from below

greenweeneer

still, no one has found anything that works eh? putting them on the bottom would be fine, accept the hole they go into is tapered. it would have to be drilled out and a straight rod with a spacer would have to be used. also the stock length of the rod may need to be shortened to account for the joint now being closer to the tie rod inners. i'm guessing china hasn't made this kit because there's no one else making it, so there's no products to copy yet. and i'm guessing no one wants to be the one to spend time designing something that is just going to get ripped off and sold at half the price. seems like a real catch 22 here, and i'm sick of destroying a set of inners once a year. has anyone tried the eg/da kit from jhpusa on an ef yet?? has any one solved this problem on their ef yet?!?!?!?!