SOHC123

like said above.... i just bought a 93 civic dx hatch from a friend but with no motor.
I first decided on a B16a but now have a change of mind. Im planning to go with a d-series instead and turbo it. My goal is to try to run low 13 et.

Well i just want to know if anyone could help me find a D16a, D16z, D16y - it dont matter if it stock or fully built. IF you know any websites that sell D-series motor post it up .. thanks.

And last question..
what is the best setup for D-series NA, Turbo or NOS?
how much hp would it make and how fast 1/4???

wilsel

check out http://www.dh-racing.com they sell built motors both d and B series

dohcMONSTER

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC123 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And last question..
what is the best setup for D-series NA, Turbo or NOS?
how much hp would it make and how fast 1/4???


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i've done all of those and trust me it is not worth it, get a swap and go from there. even @ 7 psi i was just keeping up with GSR's it is not worth the money. all the money i've spent on my D i could of had a freikin K swap ask me about my set-ups if your curious but this is from experience

PLAN:B

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i've done all of those and trust me it is not worth it, get a swap and go from there. even @ 7 psi i was just keeping up with GSR's it is not worth the money. all the money i've spent on my D i could of had a freikin K swap ask me about my set-ups if your curious but this is from experience</TD></TR></TABLE>

He is right...I had a d16y7 all built up and ran mid 14's. I got fed up, sold it, and now I have JDM B18C type r. You don't need to spend that much, but a B16 or B18 will kick *** if you use the money from your d series (and a little more $). It will be well worth it.

dohcMONSTER

i've seen your car, it's badass, i live right out by ladera

peiku

hope these will help make up your mind.

stock d16z6 block
dh-r p&p head
basic apexi turbo kit at 6psi (creeps to 9psi after 6.5k rpm tho)
spearco intercooler w/custom pipes
greddy sp 70mm catback
hondata s200 w/boost


recent time slip with 20x6x14 mt slicks on stock steelies.


all this for about $3500 total.

BrianDelSol

with a built motor running 14's i think that maybe something was wrong, built d and turbo run in the 12's , its totally worth it, 300 hp = built block, custom kit, hondata, stick with the d, b16a isn't that much better. too many d haters here, they are a good engine

peiku

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He is right...I had a d16y7 all built up and ran mid 14's. I got fed up, sold it, and now I have JDM B18C type r. You don't need to spend that much, but a B16 or B18 will kick *** if you use the money from your d series (and a little more $). It will be well worth it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i did not even see the post before. no, both of you are wrong. a built d16y7 and mid 14's? i ran 14.2 on street tires before i put on my dh-racing head. i only had 179whp. why spend more than me just to run slower than me?

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i totally agree with you.

SOHC123

Well thanks guy for all the helpful info. I appreciate your time. I know everyone have their own view between D and B series motor. But I do plan on going with a D series for my lil hatch. It doesnt matter much with me cause it a daily driven car. Im planning to keep it stock looking and if its not fast enough I'll go NOS or Turbo.

I've seen many d-series turbo or nos go 12 sec-13 sec at the track and always want to try it but never got a chance to do it. Because I have my CRX- GSR turbo. I have put to much in my CRX and with the theif always trying to jack it I pretty much just garage it. And now with the lil hatch i could mess around with it with a nice built d-series. I think it be fun. Well again thanks.

null.

just depends on your budget, i'm saving up for a turbo right now which i said i was saving up for a swap but once i save up 1200 or so i bet i'm just going to spend it on a custom kit

piscorpio

Kind of an obvious option, but one that I went with, is this websites classifieds. You can find some good deals if you are willing to buy from a private party, and don't mind used parts. I had sourced my d16z6 from a guy in the classifieds, and bought new pistons and rods for it, from vendors on this site and got some pretty good deals overall. There is some risk of course when dealing person to person. Good luck with you project.

EK22snatch

well if ya wanna take a trip to WI i can hook you up with a d16y7 for 500$

EX-T

PEIKU

what all is done to the head?
what turbo setup are you running?

chad

waste of MONEY on a dseries!!! if you wanna be FAST.....low 13's isn't fast anymore!!

EX-T

that's it 200 hp B series?

D series = cheap to replace, cheaper to build, and a lot of fun eatin' a b series' ***!

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menkio

i'll sell you a built y7 head, y8 intake, 8.5 comp block with ls rods, stock sleeves for 500

LankorDie

This is a great thread. I'm building my d16a6. I was thinking of getting a skunk2 adjustable cam gear, is it worth the money??

Edit: Is a Mini me with a Vtec head worth the trouble and money?

dirtyturtle

im just finishing building my N/A d series.. 12:1 c/r

http://members.shaw.ca/sivic/project

should give most b series a run for its money.

spyderracing

You shouldn't need a built d series for 13's if you wanna go turbo. Stock internals are pretty resiliant, just need the proper tuning.

BauleyCivic

Something for you all to think about...

Instead of doing a built D series with turbo...

b18bek (the ignorant swap ****) did this setup with a completely stock LS motor: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=718123

323 WHP 270 WTQ

wisjdmhonda

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by peiku &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hope these will help make up your mind.

stock d16z6 block
dh-r p&p head
basic apexi turbo kit at 6psi (creeps to 9psi after 6.5k rpm tho)
spearco intercooler w/custom pipes
greddy sp 70mm catback
hondata s200 w/boost


recent time slip with 20x6x14 mt slicks on stock steelies.


all this for about $3500 total.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nice, Charlie told me how much hp you made before. I'm hoping for 180 at the wheels.

Ricochet.

You can get an ls/turbo setup for that $3500 if the money is spent right i.e. you do the installations yourself.

peiku

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what all is done to the head?
what turbo setup are you running?</TD></TR></TABLE>

stock d16z6 block
dh-racing p&p head (not the full race one)
basic apexi turbo kit at 6psi (creeps to 9psi after 6.5k rpm tho)
spearco intercooler w/custom pipes
greddy sp 70mm catback
hondata s200 w/boost

the dh-racing head came with the following:

- COMPETITION PORT AND POLISH
(FULL RACE $200 ADDITIONAL)

- HIGH FLOW/POLISHED RACING VALVES

- STOCK VALVE SPRINGS, AND RETAINERS

- STOCK CAMS, CAM CAPS/ROCKER ARMS
(WHEN AVAILABLE)

- POLISHED COMBUSTION CHAMBERS

- DIAMOND MILLING
(PERFECT HEAD GASKET SEAL)
(MILLING AVILABLE UPON REQUEST)

- HOT TANKING

- 3 ANGLE VALVE JOB

- PROFESSIONAL LINE HONING
(PERFECT CAMSHAFT MOVEMENT)

-VALVES HAVE BEEN LAPPED IN

great bang for your buck. i highly recommend them. i have before and after dynosheets too if you guys are interested in seeing them.

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let me see......$3500 for a gsr swap - mid 14, maybe low 14's with slicks or $3500 for a turbo dseries - low 13's knocking on 12's. hhmmmm..........some people just dont get it. for the same amount of money, boosted dseries will always be faster than a bseries. ls/vtec w/ high compression is the exception, but who would want to spin the motor up that high on stock valvetrain/internals to make the same amount as a boosted dseries. i can go on all day. oh yeah stolen parts dont count.

peiku

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thanks. good luck and let me know how you do.

sdsviet

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let me see......$3500 for a gsr swap - mid 14, maybe low 14's with slicks or $3500 for a turbo dseries - low 13's knocking on 12's. hhmmmm..........some people just dont get it. for the same amount of money, boosted dseries will always be faster than a bseries. ls/vtec w/ high compression is the exception, but who would want to spin the motor up that high on stock valvetrain/internals to make the same amount as a boosted dseries. i can go on all day. oh yeah stolen parts dont count.
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very true. but to most of us on this forum i think if ur eventually wants to go faster than the low 13's and 12's a b-series is better off in the long run. but if u just want to stay with the $3500 and ur done with ur car than the d-series is worth it. but in the end we are never satisfied with wat we got and want to go faster. its all up to u wat u want.