Jonathan_ED3

I've been looking into the Spal power window kit for my hatch.

It seems to me that it just has a motor that cranks the stock window crank gear.

My question and concern is what you do with the crank gear after the install is done....does it just stay sticking out of the doorpanel, but with some dopey little cap on it!?

I'm working on custom doorpanels, and I need the space directly where the window crank gear sticks out.....so naturally, I need most of the stock window crank gear to be GONE.

So my major concern is what happens to the window crank gear.....I know it something there has to stay in place, but I'm wondering how much of it. Hopefully not all of it.

Anyway, a picture would be worth a thousand words if anybody has one...I'd love to see one with the doorpanel on, as I've found a few in searches with the doorpanels off. I'd like to see a 'finished' install.

TIA.

Jonathan_ED3

anyone?

NonovUrbizniz

taken from...
http://www.commandocaralarms.c...D=428

Description:
• Converts 2 Doors to Power Window
• Perfectly suited for any type of door, front or rear.
• Power window system is installed behind the door panel.
• Does not change the exterior design of the door panel
• Power window motors are extremely quiet.

NonovUrbizniz

Sorry I don't think that answer's your question too well...

If you look at the kit the motor will turn the crank from behind the doorpanel... so leaving the crank handle on is un-neccisary... I believe it just comes with a plug to fill the whole...

Search google you may find pics of it.

Jonathan_ED3

Thanks for the help man.

I've seen several pictures of the kits installed, but none with the doorpanel back in place.

Only with the doorpanel off so you can see what's going on in there.

The only thing I'm concerned about is what exactly the 'plugs' are that cover the stock crank. I mean, the crank sticks out about what....1/2" or so...I don't see how any type of plug could make that stub look good if it's still going to stick out of the doorpanel.

I wish I could find an OEM system for a decent price....people are just making a killing on those right now, and I don't want to have to pay it.

K20_Rey

If you can wait another week, I will post a full write up.

Yokohama

my friend installed the spal window kit in his escort a while ago and the kit came with plugs that clip onto the crank and it looked like tweeters in the door panel...didnt look bad at all

blkgsr03

ebay always has 92-95 civic power window kits that are oem. just need to buy the door panels too

Jonathan_ED3

So the entire crank gear remains in tact, minus the crank itself?

How does he like it? Quiet? Do the windows go up fast? Would he recommend it?

Jonathan_ED3

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All I've seen are cool 'jdm' kits...and then they *literally* expect me to pay $200-300 for shipping, on top of an asking price of 200-300.

It's a freakin rip off.

You know where any cheap ones are?

K20_Rey

I bought 95 civic EX door panels = $200
Spal Delux Window Kit = $100
Spal Remote Entry and Door Lock kit = $40


The kit just uses a cog that goes around the window crank, and it turns it for yah.

The JDM one or the civic EX one is the full window crank system. This way is a hell of a lot of trouble.

Also, the jdm one, the switches are backwards. The master switch is on the drivers side.

Yokohama

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonathan_EH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So the entire crank gear remains in tact, minus the crank itself?

How does he like it? Quiet? Do the windows go up fast? Would he recommend it? </TD></TR></TABLE>
yup...yes he liked it...doesnt have the car anymore...the windows actually went up and down at a decent rate of speed, I would say damn near close to stock...spal is a good name brand

MilanoRex

i installed the spal kit on my hatch last year.. the cheap chain snapped on both of them a couple of months ago. pieces of crap i took pictures of the install but i cant find them right now.

Jonathan_ED3

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by K20_Rey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I bought 95 civic EX door panels = $200
Spal Delux Window Kit = $100
Spal Remote Entry and Door Lock kit = $40


The kit just uses a cog that goes around the window crank, and it turns it for yah.

The JDM one or the civic EX one is the full window crank system. This way is a hell of a lot of trouble.

Also, the jdm one, the switches are backwards. The master switch is on the drivers side.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why did you buy EX doorpanels?

EX's don't have the crank gear...are you sure the panels are going to clear the crank gear? If the spal kit doesn't do away with the crank gear, aren't you going to have to cut a hole in the EX panel to clear it?

Or did you just buy it to use the stock switches?

C uR eX

i have done it before..the spal kit or any other aftermarket power window kit really SUCK! the motor go out fast (or so). but yeah you retain all the stock wingow regulator and what it is that they give you a cap that goes with the kit to cover in the crank teeth. that all it is just a cap to cover up the hole on the door panel to make it look clean.

locass316

my buddy has had the spal kit on his hatchy for over a year now with no problems so far.

quick

bump... i want to know how to do this project as well

Jonathan_ED3

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The actual installation is very easy, I was just wondering if anybody had pictures of the Spal (specifically) kit.

egturbo

lol. its funny cuz i've been lookin to get one of these. keep me posted

INVALID

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonathan_EH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Why did you buy EX doorpanels?

EX's don't have the crank gear...are you sure the panels are going to clear the crank gear? If the spal kit doesn't do away with the crank gear, aren't you going to have to cut a hole in the EX panel to clear it?

Or did you just buy it to use the stock switches?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have seen the kits in magazines, I don't think he would experience a problem with it clearing cause the chain goes around the gear itself or at least that's what I remember (it's been awhile). I'm still wondering why he paid $200 for door panels.

MilanoRex

i found some pics i took during installing.. i was almost done when i took these:

street dreams

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NonovUrbizniz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">taken from...
http://www.commandocaralarms.c...D=428

Description:
• Converts 2 Doors to Power Window
• Perfectly suited for any type of door, front or rear.
• Power window system is installed behind the door panel.
• Does not change the exterior design of the door panel
• Power window motors are extremely quiet.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
so is that price for each side or is it for the whole kit that does 2 doors anybody know

Jonathan_ED3

All the kits are a complete kit, meaning it's for 2 doors, or 4 doors, depending on which kit you get.

MilanoRex, how do you like your kit? Do you have the standard kit or the deluxe kit?

warwagon

call some junkyards dude

MilanoRex

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonathan_EH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All the kits are a complete kit, meaning it's for 2 doors, or 4 doors, depending on which kit you get.

MilanoRex, how do you like your kit? Do you have the standard kit or the deluxe kit?

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Both sides broke within a year(chains snapped).. I wouldnt recommend them to anyone. I'm going OEM this time.