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Old 05-31-2010, 08:04 PM
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Default quarter mile time on my stock b16a motor, is this normal???

Hi guys, I need your opinion whether my quarter mile time is normal.
I got a stock b16a2 with almost 100kmiles, stock everything, chasis is eg6 on full weight...
I ran a best time of 15.6, do you think this is normal.. I remembered reading online that people are getting high 14 to low 15 on their 99-00 civic si...
Please share your time here, stock b16, stock exhaust, ands stock everything, please mention what kind of mods for the time, as I am thinking to make my car a little faster..
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Default Re: quarter mile time on my stock b16a motor, is this normal???

IMO, that is normal. Remember, you have a variable when comparing this type of stuff in addition to mods, the driver. (Not saying you are a bad driver)
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idk man, i am runnin high 15s with a 94 civic ex, just i/h/e. i guess for stock and decent drivin thats normal yes. shoot for low 15s tho or expect em at least with i/h/e cuz the b series motors respond well to bolt ons
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come to think of it, my times r above average for a d16, so ya ur time sounds bout perfect actually man..btw what was ur reaction, 60ft and 1/8th?
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It seem right if your completely stock. My friend's eg si model with b16a intake,header, test pipe, p28 ecu chip, gutted interior ran 14.8. I used to own a 2000 si I/H/E, p28 ecu chip, racing test pipe,exdey stg1 clutch, clutch master flywheel, F.P.R, itr cams, sk2 cam gears intake -2 exhaust +2 with rod bearings going out after a week later ran 15.3.
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Default Re: quarter mile time on my stock b16a motor, is this normal???

i posted my slip from yesterday in another topic about car length vs time in a qtr
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i live about 20 mins from columbus ohia

the time you ran isn't terrible no, but it could be better. maybe the car needs a tune up.. maybe you need a driver mod lol. hard to say. i would do some maintenance things if you haven't already and then maybe do a compression and cylinder leakdown test to see how things are. to give you some comparison a friend of mine with a b16a 93 hatch with mostly gutted interior ran a 14.5 best time when he went to the track. i think he first ran a 15.1 and he got progressively better with each succesive run.
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practice driving, know your car, know your motor....a blink can cost you an 1/8 of a sec, differences from low 15's to mid 15's....

but there are lots of variables that can cause you to run that time
-are your tires hooking up when you take off (bad tires or too much camber in the front)
-weather (too hot, car doesn't perform as well)
-(if your picky) how much gas you have - more gas more weight, less gas less weight
-to much wheel hop
-how you launch
-and most of all - how you drive

before you buy any performance parts, i look in to variables....

when i first dropped my gsr in my hatch, i ran a best time of 14.9, i was disappointed....
but i notice i couldn't hook up the tires even after doing a big burn out, tires still wouldn't hook up, and i had hella wheel hop.
so i made traction bar, and got some new tires (dunlop derriza's 101) with some new rims of course.
went back to the track and ran a best time of 14.2, all stock 98 gsr, with only a lighten flywheel....
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Default Re: quarter mile time on my stock b16a motor, is this normal???

Thread about his b16 swap not some gsr swap big different motor power. By the way your gsr is not stock for sure gotta have basic boltons ecu etcs.
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no bolt on....i don't lie about my stuff...im not that kind of person....i don't have to lie to kick it...if you don't believe it's kool...maybe if were lucky we'll meet each other at the track in sac...then u can see for yourself, i drive a white eg on white track r, bank owned sign on passenger side....

i don't go to the track as much any more, but i just got some new hasport mounts, after i install them i wanna run the hatch again....hope for high 13's on street tires
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seems pretty good to me. mines a 2000 si, and ten years ago when it was all stock, my first time at a track my best run was 15.2 ive never been back since i started adding to it, but the butt dyno says its a lot quicker. also, 10 years in the same car and you get a little more used to each other
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seems decent to me cause my pretty good modded gsr swapped coupe didnt wanna do no better than 15.7 here in new mexico
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Default Re: quarter mile time on my stock b16a motor, is this normal???

ITS CUZ ITS A B16! (sorry hate the full motors)

Seems about right though, time for some mods!
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Default Re: quarter mile time on my stock b16a motor, is this normal???

Originally Posted by hard_boiled_EG
practice driving, know your car, know your motor....a blink can cost you an 1/8 of a sec, differences from low 15's to mid 15's....

-are your tires hooking up when you take off

before you buy any performance parts, i look in to variables....

when i first dropped my gsr in my hatch, i ran a best time of 14.9, i was disappointed....
but i notice i couldn't hook up the tires even after doing a big burn out, tires still wouldn't hook up, and i had hella wheel hop.
so i made traction bar, and got some new tires (dunlop derriza's 101) with some new rims of course.
went back to the track and ran a best time of 14.2, all stock 98 gsr, with only a lighten flywheel....
This is so true, 90% of people have traction issue and they just think they need more power.
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Default Re: quarter mile time on my stock b16a motor, is this normal???

thanks for all the replies!

I think that my car should have an closer to low 15 with the best driver...
My 60' is about 2.2 seconds, MPH is 90.21....
I think my stock exhaust is definitely the restricting factor..
Launch is ok, I got a set of azenis up front so i guess that should help...
what are your 60' time...?

What do you guys think about the best block/head setup for NA motor,
stroker kit on B20 B16 head, or any other combination???
Future build on my hatch will def be an N/A with individual throttle....
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Default Re: quarter mile time on my stock b16a motor, is this normal???

That was my best time in my 93 DX Coupe out of 3 runs with a B16A I/H/E
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my bone stock 2000 civic si with 88k went 15.3 here in houston, tx. me driving and i guess at sea level.

driver is a bigger deal.
what tranny?
tires?
the times you are putting down are verrry normal.
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Default Re: quarter mile time on my stock b16a motor, is this normal???

Originally Posted by jerryegk24
Thread about his b16 swap not some gsr swap big different motor power. By the way your gsr is not stock for sure gotta have basic boltons ecu etcs.
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'Not some gsr swap'

He was kindly explaining examples of how you could improve your track time and you act like such a loser, you do not even believe him!

Your the one who came here wanting to compare track times.
He showed how he saved some time on the quarter mile.
If you want to compare track times, DO A SEARCH !

I remembered reading online that people are getting high 14 to low 15 on their 99-00 civic si...
So you just listen to random posts from GOOGLE, but you will not listen to a person who took some time to show you their example???
Sure, the application was wrong, but was it really? b16 b18?

I should post more threads when i have stupid questions...
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get a stock k24a2 and do 11s. im sure you would be happy with that
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Default Re: quarter mile time on my stock b16a motor, is this normal???

Originally Posted by milanoH22A4
thanks for all the replies!

I think that my car should have an closer to low 15 with the best driver...
My 60' is about 2.2 seconds, MPH is 90.21....
I think my stock exhaust is definitely the restricting factor..
Launch is ok, I got a set of azenis up front so i guess that should help...
what are your 60' time...?

What do you guys think about the best block/head setup for NA motor,
stroker kit on B20 B16 head, or any other combination???
Future build on my hatch will def be an N/A with individual throttle....
Nitrous stock CR-Vtec! and get yourself some traction bars!
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Originally Posted by rick_rabies
get a stock k24a2 and do 11s. im sure you would be happy with that
then put the K20 head on. Sure he is made of $$$
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k24a2 head is the same as other k20 heads. and a kwap is cheaper then people think.
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Default Re: quarter mile time on my stock b16a motor, is this normal???

This topic's starting to turn kind of dodgy...

Anyways some key information is missing, or I'm an idiot and I missed it:

Vehicle weight
Elevation of dragstrip

Tell us those and maybe we can shed some extra light on the subject. It's hard to say that's "normal" if we don't know those factors I've listed. Running that time at 2500ft. above sea level would be awesome, while at sea level would leave much to be desired. Running that time at 2200lbs. would kind of suck, but at 2,650lbs. it'd be more acceptable.



BTW when I tell people my 2289lb. 1992 Si with a stock D16Z6 with only mods being an AEM intake and a Centerforce clutch used to run consistent 15.6's at my 1100ft. above sea level dragstrip (Silver Dollar Dragway in Reynolds, GA) they don't always believe me. When I tell them I'd beaten some then-new 1999 Civic Sis running low 16'sthey can only laugh.

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you should fer sure gut it. back seats, panels ex... or do a full strip, that will make a difference overall. b16's NEED cam gears cause of there low end torque, it is a fairly priced mod but makes a difference. then if your still not happy get P&P and new valve train then you'll be pretty set
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Default Re: quarter mile time on my stock b16a motor, is this normal???

Originally Posted by KARSON
b16's NEED cam gears cause of there low end torque, it is a fairly priced mod but makes a difference.
You left out the part where you NEED to have the cam gears dialed in on a dyno. Cam gears alone won't make much difference, if any at all. Even dialing in gears with no other mods won't yield much - not without fuel tuning and timing maps.

then if your still not happy get P&P and new valve train then you'll be pretty set
Why would he need new valve train if all he gets is a P&P job? Again you left out critical info - CAMS. You don't need valve train upgrades if you don't have cams making power above the factory redline.



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