94eg5squadMD

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just bought a 0bd1 gsr swap w/lsd complete swap. it came with the integra harness

i have a 94 eg hatch with d16z6 harness.

what is different? knock sensor? where is it and what does it look like? color? color of wires?

also another sensor on the back of the gsr its underneath the intake manifold its black. and its attached to something on the back of the block

black sensor on the top of the stock gsr intake manifold?

need some wiring help!!!!!!

i can have pictures of both the harness's up soon and the sensors i need help with


knock sensor is d3? so the obd1 plugs of my car that go into the computer theres no d3 wire/pin?




Modified by 94eg5squadMD at 7:05 PM 8/23/2007

crazyguy

does your swap come with comeplete engine harness? knock sensor is green connectorright underneath the intake manifold.cause my b16 comes with comeplete with uncut engine harness and i have a eg hatch with d16z6.so everything plugs right in and ecu too.

94eg5squadMD

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the harness is cut on the passenger side the 3 main plugs near fuse panel are cut.

instrument

um.yeah.

ekb16

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knock sensors..can be black or green..most of them ive seen are green..they are usually 1 wire sensors
http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/sensors/ks.jpg

underneath the stock gsr IM should be a black box looking thing with a 2 wire plug.. that is your IAB...

the black sensor on top of the IM that your talking about could be the Purge Control sol.

94eg5squadMD

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ok so i found d3 on the plug and have a pin for it. so im going to wire the one wire green knock sensor to that

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ekb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">knock sensors..can be black or green..most of them ive seen are green..they are usually 1 wire sensors
http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/sensors/ks.jpg

underneath the stock gsr IM should be a black box looking thing with a 2 wire plug.. that is your IAB...

the black sensor on top of the IM that your talking about could be the Purge Control sol.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the black box looking thing is? IAB? is that the butterflys that threads talk about? where do they get wired to?

thanks ekb16 ur a help but a help me somemore lol

i have two plugs still dangling on my civic harness and they are near the altenator one is white and one is grey both of them are 2 wire? help?

still have a black sensor open on the top of the intake manifold that has a screw on each side and is mounted directly on the IM

thanks alot ppl

94eg5squadMD

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heres a pic of the d16z6 with its harness on it (the harness im using for the gsr)



<U>the sensor with the red circle is?</U>

the sensor with the green circle is EVAP purge control: correct? where does that go on the gsr???

the blue circle is the IACV and that goes on the IACV of the gsr. yea thats an idiot question but have 2 second check my self


now here is a pic of the gsr with its stock gsr harness





now the iacv is in the red circle and is the same sensor has the blue circle in d1z6 pic

the white is the tps which is in the same position on the z6

the blue is the map which is in the same position on the z6

GREEN CIRCLE??? what sensor is that? 2 wire? is that the same sensor as the red circled one in the z6 pic?


i have some pics of the harness next

94eg5squadMD

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where is the EVAP on the gsr?

ekb16

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg5squadMD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heres a pic of the d16z6 with its harness on it (the harness im using for the gsr)



<U>the sensor with the red circle is?</U>

the sensor with the green circle is EVAP purge control: correct? where does that go on the gsr???

the blue circle is the IACV and that goes on the IACV of the gsr. yea thats an idiot question but have 2 second check my self


now here is a pic of the gsr with its stock gsr harness





now the iacv is in the red circle and is the same sensor has the blue circle in d1z6 pic

the white is the tps which is in the same position on the z6

the blue is the map which is in the same position on the z6

GREEN CIRCLE??? what sensor is that? 2 wire? is that the same sensor as the red circled one in the z6 pic?


i have some pics of the harness next


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in the first pic:
blue circle - IACV
Green circle - EVAP purge sol.
Red circle - Kinda hard to tell but might be Intake Air Temp (IAT)

2nd pic
Green circle - IAT (intake air temp)
Blue circle MAP sensor
White circle - TPS
Red circle - IACV

find where the IAT plug for which ever harness your using and plug that into the red circle on the gsr IM


OBD1 gsr IM doesnt have a EVAP purge sol

94eg5squadMD

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thanks again man ur a big help

<U>where does the evap purge sol. sensor on my d16z6 harness go to on the gsr???? is there a evap on a gsr motor?</U>

and what is the secondar butteryflys that i see on threads? it talks about pins a17 and a20 on obd1 computers

a17=iab
a20=evap

where does the iab go?
where does the evap go?

JeffBro

The sensor you have question marks around is the IAT intake air temp sensor. You should find that same sensor on one of the runners on the d series motor. In the other picture of the d16, the sensor on the block there is either knock or the fan temp sensor. I cant tell from that picture. Defiantly double check that your sensors are wired correctly before you try to turn the car on. post more pictures of things you want identified.

ekb16

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg5squadMD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks again man ur a big help

<U>where does the evap purge sol. sensor on my d16z6 harness go to on the gsr???? is there a evap on a gsr motor?</U>

and what is the secondar butteryflys that i see on threads? it talks about pins a17 and a20 on obd1 computers

a17=iab
a20=evap

where does the iab go?
where does the evap go?</TD></TR></TABLE>


i dont think that the obd1 gsr have Evap purge so dont worry about it...tape up that plug and leave it hanging..

your secondaries butterfly AKA IAB is the black box looking thing tucked up the GSR IM..its a 2 wire sensor, 1 goes to a17 and the other goes to ground

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JeffBro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The sensor you have question marks around is the IAT intake air temp sensor. You should find that same sensor on one of the runners on the d series motor. In the other picture of the d16, the sensor on the block there is either knock or the fan temp sensor. I cant tell from that picture. Defiantly double check that your sensors are wired correctly before you try to turn the car on. post more pictures of things you want identified.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks man for the IAT help. and yes i will double check everything before i start

and yes i will be posting more pics of things i want i dentified.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ekb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i dont think that the obd1 gsr have Evap purge so dont worry about it...tape up that plug and leave it hanging..

your secondaries butterfly AKA IAB is the black box looking thing tucked up the GSR IM..its a 2 wire sensor, 1 goes to a17 and the other goes to ground</TD></TR></TABLE>


ok well i found this pic so thats why i was wondering about the EVAP





so it shows that theres evap on the firewall but the sensor is on the top of the intake manifold


heres some more pics of my motor and it doesnt have that evap like it shows in that diagram above











so is the diagram not right?

ekb16

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ok mybad..gsr do have the purge sol...i keep thinking about jdm gsr thats y..newayz i think obd1 gsr has them on the firewall mounted and obd2 gsr have them mounted on the IM itself

obd1 style


obd2 style #5 in the pic

94eg5squadMD

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you said you keep thinking about jdm gsr? thats what i have a obd1 jdm gsr. so that first diagram you posted would be it if anything. ill have to look tomorow on the firewall and see if its there

where would the sensor be in that obd1 diagram?

ekb16

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i dont think your gonna find your evap purge sol valve on the firewall...not sure where urs is located or if u even have one...the evap purge on the obd1 diagram above is the bottom right next to the circled #7

94eg5squadMD

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ok thanks. so in this situation i do what? leave the sensor hang?

heres some current pics from about 2 hrs ago


this first pic is of the knock sensor striped, saudered, shrinked and taped up and the iab sensor is in the pic before the wiring ( iab goes to a17 and ground correct?)




next is a pic of the two sensors that are left unplugged on the z6 harness on the gsr motor. still havent figured out the evap??? but the iat is shown in the following picture on the d16z6 motor.



pic of iat connected on z6



next is a pic of the IAT getting extended to reach the top of the intake manifold. striped, saudered, shrinked and getting ready for tape



back of the intake manifold while im extendiing the IAT



completion of the extended IAT



next is a pic of the IAB sensor off the gsr harness striped getting read for a ground and a wire to run to A17.



here is a pic of the IAB with the ground and the wire ready to run to A17



heres a pic of the d3 pin and the a17 pin




<U>does all of this seem right? anything wrong? all sensors look ok?</U>

any info? help? suggestions?


pic of the car this work is for

ekb16

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looks like u got it

94eg5squadMD

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ok so all looks good? the evap i guess ill let chill and hang.

now for some new questions.

<U>timing belt and waterpump? just bought brand new today</U>

i read two threads about doing this but theres a couple things im not sure of.

<U>what do i do if the cam gears up arrows arent facing up? how would i move them?</U>

<U>also removing the crank bolt and crank pulley? can i do with an impact? how would i line the tdc lines on the crank and block? put the bolt in and turn?</U>

im worried about going out of timing!!!!!!!!!!!

so as long as (when im ready to pull the crank pulley and the timing belt off) the cam gears have the arrows facing up( what if they are not how to move them) and the cranks tdc lines are lined up i should be ok with timing?

as far as once the belt is on but not tension'd up. i heard about puting the crank bolt and pulley back on and cranking it counterclockwise 3 teeth back or something and then tighting the tensioner?

sorry about all these question

big thanks to ekb16

and anyone else who helps

ekb16

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turn the engine until the white mark on the crank pulley lines up with the arrow...when thats lined up the arrows on the cam gears should be pointing up...thats its ok to take off the crank pulley..

you can take off the crank pulley with the impact gun if your gun is strong enough..if not your going to need to find a way to hold the crank from turning and bust the bolt with a long *** breaker bar..

after you put everything back together including the timing belt, turn the motor by hand over 3-4x and check the tension on the belt

94eg5squadMD

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so is there a mark on the crank pulley and a mark on the block that im matching up and when that is the arrows on the cam gears should be facing up.

my bad im just having a hard understanding im trying to get all the info i can NOT to mess this timing up.

so with the valve cover off and the top timing belt cover off whats the next step?

look to see if arrows are facing up? if not look for what and do what?

once the arrows are up take off the crank bolt? the crank wont spin while doing this?????????????????

94eg5squadMD

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ekb16

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this should help you with your timing belt questions...its the same process...just use your arrows on the cam gear
http://www.c-speedracing.com/h...t.php