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Would non OEM headlights cause a weird beam pattern on the road? Anyone have experience with non OEM headlights have pictures or know if its the same or not?

pythoner

i have non OEM head lamps because they cost more than the clear ones I bought...but it does have areas of clusters of light like in the cut off area and the rest of the light is dim....they suck but the high beams work amazingly

I am going to get a driver OEM light and mount the OEM ones back on the car...also some OEM or JDM (I know its OEM but in another country )

Syndacate

sylvania silverstars and they kick ***.

No weird light.

Eran

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sylvania silverstars and they kick ***.

No weird light.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Barf

Elwuudz

beam splitting to the far left and right ... not down?

diffraction is caused by the lens and the bad calibration by the installer
oem lenses are used with h4 halogens

many ebay headlights tend to create difraction of the light in low beam and in high beam its just less noticeable:: this makes the beam harder to point

I recommend any HID kit 8kand up (oem or ebay lenses and usdm oem corners
) jdm once peice for the ballers

more light is better than weak light pointed where you want it

Eran

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Elwuudz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do a HID kit for 200$ with oem glass its nice

or some cheap ebay remakes </TD></TR></TABLE>

Once again, barf.

Sylvania Silverstars = suck *** dichroric filtered pieces of ****
$200 HID Kits = poor light output, glare, and improper cutoff.

Eran

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Elwuudz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">more light is better than weak light pointed where you want it </TD></TR></TABLE>

8K and above?

More Kelvin = Less Lumines

8K+ also has really blue/purple light wich produces less of a reaction from the eye, causing strain and lack of visibility.

Elwuudz

Quote, originally posted by Elwuudz »
do a HID kit for 200$ with oem glass its nice

or some cheap ebay remakes

Once again, barf.

Sylvania Silverstars = suck *** dichroric filtered pieces of ****
$200 HID Kits = poor light output, glare, and improper cutoff.
^^ for those of us who cannot read or fabricate i feel sorry

fleh... offer up something besides barf you imbred mongrel, This dude needs feasable options for headlight pointing not puddles of barf cluttering the page

I used those setups and they both worked well for me during blizzards and driving in rain in dust storms on very hilly terrain

I asked president bush to sign off on an expedition to the sun; where NASA will harvest radioactive plasma for my next headlight setup

Elwuudz

8k+ sry i have to look cool also

I never busted out my lumenometer to check u a$$wipe

Eran

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He was asking about OEM vs Aftermarket as far as HEADLIGHT LENSES, your HIDs suggestion is just as worthless as "barf."

And honestly, I know tons of people that are like "blah blah, my ebay hidz are teh rox0rz. TEH are jdMMM!" And you know what? They're wrong. And you know what else? Every single oncoming car at night hates them and wishes they would die.

To the OP - if you're talking about a 96-00 headlight, I haven't experienced any adverse lighting patterns from an aftermarket headlight. I can't say the same to a 92-95 headlight, being as they are a fluted lens, and the aftermarket RnD is just not comparable.

PS - Elwuuuudzzzz .... you don't know much about lighting. Please don't pretend you do. "more light = better" is just about the most IGNORANT thing I've ever heard.

Eran

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Elwuudz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">8k+ sry i have to look cool also

I never busted out my lumenometer to check u a$$wipe </TD></TR></TABLE>

Lumenometer? Way to make up a word.

It's common physics, you peon. Read the link in my sig and maybe you might learn something today. Wait, nevermind. You'll just post something retarded like "8K iz teh l33t."

Elwuudz

PS.. you are right; i dont... and that is why i am here

to learn and offer up suggestions based on what i have had experience with

I am a novice at best. I must leave this to the pro's who paruse the lighting forums late on friday nights

My goal is not to post in every forum just in the ones i have had experience with

I have used 4 different sets of leses in my eg
and I have used 4 different sets of halogens including oem then &gt;1 HID

I have experienced and remembered how all the combo's worked

Maybe I wasn't in my place to offer advice ERAN

I'll make sure to be timid next time

ERAN please enlighten me so I can really develop an understanding of how different your lighting setup compares to mine how much smarter you are than me and why i am actually wasting my time with this response.

Are you some engineer for stanley or just an opposing motorist&gt;

some peon? ill take my chances




YOU PWND ME

Modified by Elwuudz at 11:51 PM 12/8/2006


Modified by Elwuudz at 12:01 AM 12/9/2006

Eran

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Damn, you're pretty bitter about being proven wrong ... I'll be sure not to correct misinformation next time ... wouldn't want to hurt anyone's e-feelings.

Hatchy-Ownzjo0

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Elwuudz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I recommend any HID kit 8kand up (oem or ebay lenses and usdm oem corners) jdm once peice for the ballers</TD></TR></TABLE>

HAHAHAHAHA! Dont EVER listen to this chatch about lighting. I dont care how much "experience" he has. He does not know ****.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Elwuudz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ERAN please enlighten me so I can really develop an understanding of how different your lighting setup compares to mine how much smarter you are than me and why i am actually wasting my time with this response.

Are you some engineer for stanley or just an opposing motorist&gt;

some peon? ill take my chances
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You shouldnt take chances.. Not on Honda-Tech and not when someone else is asking for advice. Short of "dont even bother using your headlights", you gave some of the worst advice I've ever seen. You want to be enlightened? Do some research on HID's.. Retrofits.. and lighting in general. Just because you put 4 different types of bulbs in your car then purchased a ricer boy plug and play HID kit doesnt make you any more knowledgeable on lighting than the pile of dog **** in my neighbor's backyard.

Thizzed Out

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hatchy-Ownzjo0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You shouldnt take chances.. Not on Honda-Tech and not when someone else is asking for advice. Short of "dont even bother using your headlights", you gave some of the worst advice I've ever seen. You want to be enlightened? Do some research on HID's.. Retrofits.. and lighting in general. Just because you put 4 different types of bulbs in your car then purchased a ricer boy plug and play HID kit doesnt make you any more knowledgeable on lighting than the pile of dog **** in my neighbor's backyard. </TD></TR></TABLE>
. lmfao 8k and up

Eran

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To quote George Carlin ....

"And with nothing more to say, I take a small bow."

Hatchy-Ownzjo0

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Battle23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Would non OEM headlights cause a weird beam pattern on the road? Anyone have experience with non OEM headlights have pictures or know if its the same or not?</TD></TR></TABLE>

To answer your question:

1. Non-OEM headlights [I assume you are talking about projectors] are overall pretty shitty [at least for 92-95 civics]. The problem with projectors is that they use foglight projectors and bulbs a majority of the time. This often results in a short light beam [not to mention the cutoff is usually terrible], and overall not much improvement on visibility at night. Often times purchasing after market projectors is a gamble. You may get a good set that has a quazi-crisp cut off and actually improves your lighting, or you may get a set that is shitty, blinds the hell out of everyone else on the road, and actually produces less visibility than the stock headlights.

The "weird beam pattern" you are talking about is the cut off. The OEM headlights for 92-00 civics suffer from what is called "hotspots". That is, the light is not dispersed evenly along the road surface, rather, there are certain focal points of light . This causes a lack of light elsewhere, and overall shitty visibility. The beam pattern on after market projectors usually is more crisp of a cutoff. However, they often suffer from the problems I discussed previously with the foglight projectors and bulbs.

Your best possible bet:

A HID retrofit.

Contrary to what chatchboy mentioned earlier, you want to stick with around 4200-4300k HIDs. This produces the best output, and is, coincidentally, why pretty much all OEM HID equipped cars come with 4200-4300k HIDs.

A HID retrofit involves fitting your stock or after market headlamps with an OEM HID projector. Take for instance an S2000 HID projector [these are known as some of the highest quality projectors on the market]. You would take the projector [do a search if you dont know what I'm talking about] and retrofit it into your current headlamp assembly [this takes a fair amount of work and imagination, though there are many write ups on how you can do it]. Once this is done, you should have a pretty kick *** lighting system. It should light up the road better than anything you could have ever imagined, and it will have the crispest, cleanest cut off you've ever seen [assuming you did the retrofit correctly].

The downside to this is that it will probably cost you 400-500 dollars just for the HID kit and projectors. If you want to use after market headlamps [which is useful because a clear headlight lens is best for any lighting system] it will cost another 150 - 200 bucs on top of that. However, this is a small price to pay for the best lighting ever.

I may post more later if I feel so inclined.

blueb16-em1

my ebay headlights shooots out the beam wuird, tried adjusting it but still sucks azz, plus i have sylvania silverstars, there worth the 40bucks

invisible

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hatchy-Ownzjo0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

To answer your question:

1. Non-OEM headlights [I assume you are talking about projectors] are overall pretty shitty [at least for 92-95 civics]. The problem with projectors is that they use foglight projectors and bulbs a majority of the time. This often results in a short light beam [not to mention the cutoff is usually terrible], and overall not much improvement on visibility at night. Often times purchasing after market projectors is a gamble. You may get a good set that has a quazi-crisp cut off and actually improves your lighting, or you may get a set that is shitty, blinds the hell out of everyone else on the road, and actually produces less visibility than the stock headlights.

No I meant as in eBay "smoked" "JDM" what ever they label it as. No projector.

The "weird beam pattern" you are talking about is the cut off. The OEM headlights for 92-00 civics suffer from what is called "hotspots". That is, the light is not dispersed evenly along the road surface, rather, there are certain focal points of light . This causes a lack of light elsewhere, and overall shitty visibility. The beam pattern on after market projectors usually is more crisp of a cutoff. However, they often suffer from the problems I discussed previously with the foglight projectors and bulbs.

And as in beam pattern I also meant that as in how it shins on the road.

Your best possible bet:

A HID retrofit.

Contrary to what chatchboy mentioned earlier, you want to stick with around 4200-4300k HIDs. This produces the best output, and is, coincidentally, why pretty much all OEM HID equipped cars come with 4200-4300k HIDs.

A HID retrofit involves fitting your stock or after market headlamps with an OEM HID projector. Take for instance an S2000 HID projector [these are known as some of the highest quality projectors on the market]. You would take the projector [do a search if you dont know what I'm talking about] and retrofit it into your current headlamp assembly [this takes a fair amount of work and imagination, though there are many write ups on how you can do it]. Once this is done, you should have a pretty kick *** lighting system. It should light up the road better than anything you could have ever imagined, and it will have the crispest, cleanest cut off you've ever seen [assuming you did the retrofit correctly].

The downside to this is that it will probably cost you 400-500 dollars just for the HID kit and projectors. If you want to use after market headlamps [which is useful because a clear headlight lens is best for any lighting system] it will cost another 150 - 200 bucs on top of that. However, this is a small price to pay for the best lighting ever.

I may post more later if I feel so inclined.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Modified by Battle23 at 8:15 PM 12/9/2006

Eran

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Post a picture. Chances are, it's going to be very very similar.

invisible

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Post a picture. Chances are, it's going to be very very similar.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I heard some people had problems with it beaing less visiable with the high beams on like it wouldnt be much difference with the high beams on. also regular driving lights and they also said it was adjusted/leveled.

Eran

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Battle23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I heard some people had problems with it beaing less visiable with the high beams on like it wouldnt be much difference with the high beams on. also regular driving lights and they also said it was adjusted/leveled.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Is it for a 92-95 civic or 96-00 civic?

invisible

99-00

Eran

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Battle23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">99-00</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your beam pattern should be fine. It's not a fluted headlight. Your high-beam may be a little off, but it should present no problems.

invisible

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Your beam pattern should be fine. It's not a fluted headlight. Your high-beam may be a little off, but it should present no problems.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I need to find the picture, i think I saved it.