civiceg8boy

hey guys i have a civic eg 4dr and i have an ls in it wit clutch flywheel and headers intake..but idk whether to put a gsr head and be ls vtec or boost it all ls???

90Rexx

sigh.... you need to tell everyone what your plans are before you ask these questions.... obviously turbo yeilds mroe power, but whats your budget and horsepower goals? is this a DD or a track car ect.... by the way i noticed your from rosilindale.... im semi-local and have a turbo for sale so if u decide turbo i got a nice one for sale cheap! turbonetics

macson

Definitely need to know plans, DD/track, budget, how much work you're looking to do with potential downtime, etc... Wouldn't hurt noting any suspension/brake mods as well, don't want to have a lot of boost power with noway of keeping your car in check as far as handling.

pvt_awol

hell, I don't need to know what his plans are.

LS- Turbo. The most fun I EVER had with my civic. Simple stock LS, simple bolt on turbo kit at 7psi. No tuning, just a Vortech FMU. Car was amazing.

Then I started doing LS/VTEC, and crap hit the fan from there. The car makes 400+ whp now, but if I could do it all over again, I'd go back to just the stock LS/Turbo setup. It was the most fun. Whether drag racing, auto cross, whatever.

Just get a cheap turbo setup with a small turbo. (something that spools quick). That's my $.02

93egSLEEPER

LS-T is definately a fun setup IMO. I am running a LSV-T and love it as well. makes more power, but also cost a bit more money. just for perspective i make 340whp 256tq on 14 pound spring, t3/t4 54 trim, and my buddy makes 300ish on 17 pound spring with the same turbo on LS-T. just some food for thought.

pvt_awol

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LS/VTEC is fun, but it seems to eat money like crazy. Sure, you can put one together cheap, but it's not gonna last at all. And really, unless you drive everywhere with slicks on, too much power is gonna be wasted.

tell you what, check my youtube videos. under the username, pvt_awol.

freeway test 1 is just a stock LS-Turbo in a full weight civic EX coupe. Freeway test 2 is the same car with an untuned LS/VTEC turbo. Not a whole lot of difference, but probably 5 grand in money spent between the 2.

I just can't stress enough though, get a small turbo.

93egSLEEPER

yes i have to agree with you in the wasted power subject. first and second gears are useless, and third will sometimes break loose. on slicks though those gears feel amazing. i havent had a problem with it not lasting... just keep spinning bearings for some reason.
OP i would stick with a small turbo LS-T and have fun smashin people on the street that step up.

sskracing

are you built ls/vtec, or stock ls bottom end?
340whp on stock ls bottom wouldnt last long at all...
and only with a 54 "trim" on 14 psi,
i dont really see how you make that much power if its stock ls.
on an sc61 on 12psi lsvtec turbo im making 300ish.
i wanna see your setup.

90Rexx

lol you keep spinning bearings cuz your revving your grenade of an LS bottom end like its a B18C. food for thought honda derived its redline on the LS motor based on the blocks revving potential and NOT the valvetrain

pvt_awol

I'm telling ya, stock LS-Turbo. Run 7 psi or so, small turbo.

Will be the best money spent. If you shop, you can do a setup like that all day long for around 2 grand. If you already have the LS swap, then of course way cheaper.

Not too many other swaps, or upgrades you can do to your car, for that kinda money, that will be as much fun to drive.

pvt_awol

I realized how hard it is to find my videos on youtube.

Here is the link for stock LS with 7psi drag turbo kit. Untuned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaTbLDehPc8

and here is the same setup, with a b16 head slapped on. Running a stock p30.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9ZUI...eature=related

pvt_awol

keep in mind, there is about 3k worth of difference, and although the LS/VTEC is built and tuned now, for the money, I was waaaay happier with the stock LS setup.

kozanatos

LS2B

civiceg8boy

well ive have prolly about 2k to spend and wat i got done to the car is i have the d2 suspension on it and skunk 2 lcas so i have upgraded the suspension a bit .now i want to move on to the motor i want something that can be reliable as a daily driven car

slammed em1

my vote is to go ls/vtec....if you do it right the first time, u will have a reliable daily that can keep up ond beat some of the boosted cars out there....your gonna make more power on boost but too much worrying on things breaking, etc....

besides i find vtec more fun....

93egSLEEPER

NO NO NO....JUST to clarify this i am running a GSR BLOCK, with LS CRANK RODS AND ARP bolts and fasteners,re-rounded rods, balanced rotating assembly (again), b16 head with type r cams and a b16 tranny w/ lsd. it was built correctly for turning the rpm and to withstand what i was throwing at it. the first time it happens i blew an oil pan gasket lost oil pressure, game over. second time i had a loose piece of honda bond get in my oil pick-up and seal it off, once again no oil pressure, game over. I know what im building and what im doing... i know not to push a stock ls block to 8200rpm. im not dumb

OP yes my build is on ALL stock honda parts other then a lightened flywheel and all arp bolts and fasteners. I just have bad luck with oil pick ups apparently. gl on whatever you build.

90Rexx

obviously someone doesnt know what they are doing if they used too much honda-bond ;-) haha but enough about this thats not what this thread is about ;-)



OP go LS turbo if your just looking for a fun car and 2k is your budget... hell i dont even think you can do anything but an ebay kit for 2k though if you dont already have an LS swap in there....an LS swap might cost you upwards of 1,000 bucks depending... then that only leaves u with a grand for a whole turbo setup

civiceg8boy

i already have an ls in da car wit a gsr tranny wit clutch and flywheel intake headers exhaust i jus wanna build a pretty quik setup

b00stedOne

iTrader: (1)

if you want less than 300whp i would say boost the stock ls and spend the money to get a good tune if you want it to last.

The Kurnel

id go wit the ls/vtec, cuz you'll get some power, and itll make you want more, so then you get some more money together and turbo it! ie...more power in the end rather than right now! i was debating this same thing but if im gonna turbo i dont wanna run 7psi and hope my motor holds up, id rather build the crap outa it, boost more and know it can and will take whatever i put it through, just my opinion though, good luck with whatever you decide and lemme know how it goes

Nichelson_Performance

ls turbo

my friend has an EK hatch B18b boosted on 10.5 psi and right now i have a eagle/vitara single cam in a fully equipped EK coupe on 14psi and he pulls at least a car on me, plus his build is unbelievably reliable.

some day when i can afford it, an LS turbo will probably be my swap choice