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Old 03-25-2012, 07:43 PM
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i just screwed myself by trusting a friend saying that he had a rear disc swap. I got the rear disc swap but dont know what car it came from and i didnt get the 40/40 like he said or even the 4030 from the 92-95 hatch. The proportioning valve i got is a21c its flat and has 6 brake line opening on the valve itself. can someone tell me what car this comes from? also how can i identify what car my rear disc swap came from?? is their meausments i can do please anyone with any info would be greatly appreciated?
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I did a swap and did not use the 40/40 proportioning valve.. It stops on a dime.. Just make sure you have the right brake booster
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please identify these tailing arms somebody! also what proportioning valve is this off of?. theres even a code on the caliper i took a shot of
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What seems to be the problem? Install them theyll fit.
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dont know what brakes and rotors to get or from what car these came from and i dont have the correct proportioning valve.
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https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/faqs-frequently-asked-tech-questions-1998336/

Section 13, subsection c.

Your answers lie in there. But suffice it to say that rotors from any 94-01 Integra from a LS/RS/GS/GS-R will fit and so will 99-00 Si rotors cause they are all the same. Same brake pads, too. The prop valve you have is from a 96-00 Civic. What chassis are you putting these brakes in? That will help.
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Look at the brake line. Integra brake line is different than a civics where it bolts to the caliper. What do you drive? I'm guessing by your name, a crx? Unfortunately that is about as much as I can help. You may want t try to enter those part numbers into google and see if anything comes up.
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I took this stuff back and got my money back. Im going with 94-01 dc trailing arm setup from hmotorsonline. since at the moment im not up gradeing the front brakes. what proportioning valve should i get the 4040 or the 3040 from the si 92-95 hatch? I think i may put a 15/16 MC so i dont have to swap out the booster for a teg unit down the road when i up grade the front bakes to teg units. My rear disc swap will go on my 95 dx hatch. Nope no more crx those days are over. p.s also what 96-00 civic would that come from ex dx si??
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Cx, Dx, Lx, and Si all use the same prop valve. Ex got the different one.

Cant you just use a DC prop valve? You might have to bend your lines with an EK prop valve.
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glad i returned those rusty trailing arms Take a look at my new dc trailing arms from steve at hmotorsonline.com look minty 50,000 miles supposely and it looks like it. pressing in my prothane rear trailing arms and compenstator arm bushing got the whole rear disc bushing pressed in except the upper rear controling arms cause i didnt have the right socket to get the job done, but will have the two bushing pressed in sometime this up coming week. The prothane kit is fairly straight forward seeing as this is my first time pressing in suspension bushings. Just wondering if i have to keep the ring that the old bushing are attached to, so i can pressing in the new front and rear lower shock bushing and front and rear control arm bushing as those don't have sleeves like the trailing and compensator arm bushing alone with eh rear upper control arm bushings. any body got and insight on this? let me know thanks
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When I did my rear swap the prop. valve part # on my DX was identical to the Si. There is some bad info on the net stated as fact that would lead one to believe that the valve swap is always necessary. I even kept the DX MC. Outside of the trailing arms, only the brake lines and e-brake cable didn't fit. I used stainless brake lines and the Si e-brake cable. I don't know which OEM brake lines would fit (could never get a straight answer on this).
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Cx, Dx, Lx, and Si all use the same prop valve. Ex got the different one.

Cant you just use a DC prop valve? You might have to bend your lines with an EK prop valve.
lx does not use the same valve. You cannot use a DC prop valve without full custom lines.


When you are swapping to rear disk leave your current MC in. You only need to switch if your going to diferent front caliprs.



About the bushings, you only have to reuse the OEM metal parts with the ES bushings. The prothane is a simple press out/press in process. Also, you don't need to press them in!

While you've got them out, flip them over(brakes facing the ground), stand on the trailing arm, and hammer around the trailing arm bushings. A few good hard smacks and they should pop right out. The new ones will slide back in basicly the same way they came out. Set them in, and a couple good smacks will get them back in. Lube the new "dog bone" and push it in. Don't worry about "clocking" it, there is no need while using poly.

Put the new ones in from the outside, pushing inward.
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check out the new prothane bushings i press in for the first time. prothane kit is straight forward. these are dc trailing arms that i got for hmotorsonline.com with 50,000 on them and they look like it. im going to get 92-95 si hatch ebrake cables for a direct fit.
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Default Re: how to identify rear disc swap? and proportioning valve

Originally Posted by B18CivicEJ8
The prop valve you have is from a 96-00 Civic.
'98 - '01 Integra prop valves look like that as well, it could have come from either,

Also, '98 - '01 Prop valves are not valved the same internally as the CX/DX/HX/Si prop valve due to the larger caliper pistons on Integra front brakes (EX/Si uses a similar brake setup, but the with a smaller caliper piston)

'92 - '00 Civics with rear discs and '94 - '01 Integras (except ITR) all use the same rear calipers, lines and rotors. '90 - '93 Integras have slightly different calipers and flex lines.
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