rleonekc

I was just wondering, i need to bleed my clutch in my 94 civic ex how do i do it?

rleonekc

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Syndacate

There's a little tube infront of the trans - in back of the radiator - it has a "nipple" on it w/ a black cap. That's the slave cylinder for the clutch.

When you press the clutch it forces fluid from the master cylinder (it's by the brake booster, has a filler cap on it, closest to the fender - the one closer to the inside is the brake reservoir) through the lines into the slave cylinder etc. etc. The goal is to "flush" everything out of there WITHOUT getting ANY air in there.

So you'll pull off the nipple cap on the slave cylinder and loosen the valve - peachy. When you press on the clutch - fluid will come out of that nipple, but when you release the clutch, it will suck (vacuum) stuff back up.

So it's idealy done with two pple - the self-bleeders are a joke.

One person sits in the car, the other by the slave cylinder - loosen - clutch - tighten (when fluid's out) - release the clutch - loosen - clutch - tighten (when fluid's out) - release the clutch - and keep going.

The thing is - you can't let the reservoir get to bone dry (empty) or it'll suck air into the system and you'll have to do it all over again - so every 2 pumps or so fill the reservoir back up.

Here's a pic of the master cyl / reservoir - where you fill.



Here's the slave cylinder where it comes out of when u push the pedal down.

---------- Sorry - can't find a pic of that - it's pretty obvious - right behind the radiator - lil tube w/ a cap on it...

EDIT:
Two more important things.

- Don't let the clutch out without tightening the slave cylinder nut first.
- Don't let the master cyl res go to empty.

You can PM me if you have any Q's, I'll be on and off most of tonight...

Rev2Eight

heres a nice write up i used a few months ago http://www.team-integra.net/se...D=644

94c1v1cex

damn... that yours? nice bay bro

H22CIVICJDM

OK WHAT HAPPENS WHEN U MEES UP AND GET AIR INTO THE LINE AND NOW I CANT EVEN TIGHTEN MY CLUTCH.

H22CIVICJDM

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vrrodri

you start all over again.

07GPWS2K

restart it sucks. focus and have a knowledgeable person press the clutch inside

H22CIVICJDM

ok so heres how it goes my car is now with a loose clutch and is filled up about the right amount in the reservoir . i have my friend pump it and then as he hold the clutch down and then i reease the valve then close it right away then repeat that still doesnt work

cxSHOE

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this means you still have air in the system. keep doing it. i personally do it by myself without any problems.

put enough fluid, open valve, push clutch down (it will stay all by itself) then close valve, raise clutch pedal. repeat as necessary.

good luck...

EE_Chris

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This works like a champ.

H22CIVICJDM

ok so u dont have to pump it a whole bunch of times????so have fluid. open the valave by the tranny. press the clutch down then close it? then do i op[en the valve or pull the clutch back first??? how about the cap on the reservoir do you need to to have it on or could u leave on??

BubblegumTate

I completely replaced the fluid in my system when I replaced the master cylinder last week. It only took me like 6 pumps to go from dirty nasty old fluid, to air, to clean blue fluid and no bubbles. Just make sure to close the bleeder valve and refill the reservoir after every 1 or 2 strokes -- it doesn't hold much fluid at all.

H22CIVICJDM

i know thats why it weird i mean i keep doing it and it feels like im just pumping forever and ever. is there anything else that could possibly cause this?? its weird isnt like bleeding the brakes??? i did pour gear trns fluid in the reservoir and and it was driving fine for a while till my clutch became loose so i drained it. now it doesnt work

g23_ej1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dvd_lettermen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok so u dont have to pump it a whole bunch of times????so have fluid. open the valave by the tranny. press the clutch down then close it? then do i op[en the valve or pull the clutch back first??? how about the cap on the reservoir do you need to to have it on or could u leave on??</TD></TR></TABLE>


you have pm

94Hatchd15b7

Holly chrome that to much. Chrome does not give you horsepower

cxSHOE

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LOL


Syn. will definitely be getting back to you on this.

Syndacate

You're doing it wrong. Almost right though.

You loosen the nut first, then you have the driver pump maybe 3x (1 pump, 2 pump, 3 and HOLD). Then you TIGHTEN the nut, and he RELEASES the pedal.

Pushing the pedal forces fluid into the slave cyl, releasing it sucks whatever in (vacuum). So you want to push the fluid out, but not let it suck the air in.

Be forewarned while pumping it it may "die" (like sink to the floor and stay there), that's normal, just have him pick it back up w/ his hand and then press it again.

Then once you have that nut tightened, he can release the clutch - then you fill up the res - make sure that res doesn't go down.

Syndacate

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You just have to bleed all the air out. Keep bleeding it (the right way) - it will all come out.

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No, victim of the google search engine - my engine bay would never look like that, that's utter crap to me .

EE_Chris

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You loosen the nut first, then you have the driver pump maybe 3x (1 pump, 2 pump, 3 and HOLD). Then you TIGHTEN the nut, and he RELEASES the pedal.

Pushing the pedal forces fluid into the slave cyl, releasing it sucks whatever in (vacuum). So you want to push the fluid out, but not let it suck the air in.</TD></TR></TABLE>

A 'pump' consists of pushing the pedal down and bringing it back up. So why doesn't the first pump produce the same vacuum as the 3rd that you're asking him to hold the pedal down so it doesn't suck fluid back in?

The link posted works.

You don't need to pump it a whole bunch of times, like when doing the brakes. And you also don't need to close the bleeder bolt until you're completely done. Put the hose on the bolt and put the other end into a bottle that has a little clean fluid in it (submerge it). Make sure the resovoir is filled. Put the cap back on. With the bleeder bolt broken loose, pump two times (you'll probably have to pull the pedal back up), check the resovoir and fill back up as needed (and put the cap back on each time).

Do NOT worry about closing the bleeder bolt when you think you're done and might need to pull the pedal back up. After the fluid runs clear and the pedal is back up, just tighten the bolt back...that simple.

If you can picture it, when push the clutch pedal in, you're pushing a piston that moves fluid and since the bolt is open, it just comes out. Now when you pull it back up, it's not going to suck air back through the bleeder bolt because 1) you've got it submerged in fluid to begin with and 2) you already have 'dirty' fluid in the hose. So the worst that happens is that when you bring the pedal back up, it pulls back in an inch or so of 'dirty' fluid....but so much more comes out on the next push. So when you bring the pedal back up, that piston is now sucking in fluid from the resovoir and will be the new 'charge' that the piston pushes out of the bleeder bolt.

g23_ej1

that engine bay looks like the greddy maroon civic

fmrprojects

its like bleeding brakes. just hook up a clear line to the slave cylinder and kepp pumping with your hand on the clutch pedal. remember to always keep the resevoir full with fluid while doing it. when you see no more air bubbles in the line you should be good

H22CIVICJDM

ok .... thanks ill try that........if anything if the pump was bad could it cause it never to get tight??? i clearly see the fluid being pushed out....and incase i forgot to mention i had gear oil in the line......i put in gear oil and it was working fine for a while. could that have damaged my pump?

H22CIVICJDM

ok guys i think my pump is broke mt clutch is just loose i cant tighten it.....is there anyway to check if its the pump....cuz im not trying to bleed it i woke up and my clutch was down to the floor!!!!