97EKcoupeNJ

i was thinkin about buying a set of CTR lights and just wondering how i tell the difference from real-deal ctr lights from the cheap knockoffs? is it the make of it? city lights? i know obviously the quality but how do i tell the difference?

BlueIntegraBoy

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It will say HONDA & STANLEY on the bottom on the lens

97EKcoupeNJ

anything else to look out for?

97EKcoupeNJ

bumpp no help??

tx_ej8_49

as far as i know that is going to be the easiest way to tell. If it does not say HONDA or Stanley on it, its prolly fake. Look at the position of the actually headlight bulb housing. If it looks off-center....it most likely made by the lowest bidder in china and you could call it a fake/knockoff.
Honda=A level of quality.

Adamvanxxx

And they will cost ALOT more than a fake pair.

Deetz

This!!!

No!!!! You already have your answer

NOFX

As mentioned before, they'll say HONDA along the bottom and STALNEY too.

Also, they won't have any diffusers (the little shield that goes in front of the headlight bulb) but will have holes for a small light bulb (194/168) called the city light.

'97-'98 headlights will not have a spot for the long amber reflector in the turn signal and won't have an amber bulb cap on the light bulb (just compared my USDM headlights and Type-R headlights). US headlights use a clear dual filament bayonet bulb (3496/1157) and the CTR uses an amber single filament bayonet bulb (3497/1156). If you use US turn signal bulb sockets then you can use the dual filament type bulbs.

'99-'00 headlights will have a clear reflector inside the corner instead of an amber one IIRC.

And of course the reflective housings of the lights will be a gunmetal like color, not chrome.

Some "SiR" (this is what many people call overseas non-CTR lights) are available with a bronze housing finish, but this is rare and difficult to to tell from the normal CTR color without good photos with good lighting. These lights all say Valeo instead of Stanley as well.

97EKcoupeNJ

And what the hell is a city light anyway?

Deetz

just a 194 wedge bulb, just like a park light, that's all

NOFX

A city light is a small light in the headlight housing that's used instead of the marker lights we use here (the constantly on amber lights in the turn signal area is what we use).

So, the US uses an amber light in the turn signal section (aka. a "parking light").

Japan uses a city light. You'll see the hole for the city light diagonally under the hole for the headlight bulb.

Here is a city light in a headlight for a '99-'00 Civic. Keep in mind that some aftermarket headlights also have these.

97EKcoupeNJ

where can i find a real set? without getting raped for them? ive seen them as low as 500 and as high as 850?? like whats the difference there?? just the tip or full on rapped??

alphalanos

http://www.icbmotorsport.com/exteriorpart1.html

http://passwordjdm.com/category_make..._ID=164&Page=2

http://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/viewC...idCategory=106

ebay

prices are getting high as the cars get older and parts harder to find

97EKcoupeNJ

whats the differnce from Sir and CTR

NOFX

I bought mine used for $240 IIRC. Just a couple months ago on here. I've seen them going for similar prices lately. I would NEVER pay $800+ for them unless I was buying them new from Honda (I believe this is about what they cost, but I'd have to check to be sure).

They're headlights. There's not a lot of parts that wear out or break from use. Anything broken would be pretty obvious when you check them out before purchase.
All lights sold overseas that aren't CTR headlights or the rare bronze tinted lights would come with the chrome housing.

"SiR" headlights are what people call pretty much all headlights that aren't CTR lights. They're just like the CTR headlights except that they have chrome housings instead of gunmetal/bronze. Some "SiR" headlights also say Valeo instead of Stanley on them.

CTR headlights all say Stanley because, as far as I'm aware, all JDM '95-'00 Civic headlights were made by Stanley. Valeo headlights are sold in at least some parts of Europe and perhaps elsewhere. They are all OE Honda headlights though.

NOFX

I was just told that new from Honda these lights cost about $500.

PasswordJDM often inflates prices and makes lots of replica parts, which they then often sell at the same price (or similar) to the original part. I do not buy from them because I do not agree with their business practices.

An easy way to not get raped when purchasing a lot of parts is:
- Know what you're looking for (and know what to look for)!
- Don't buy brand new unless you have to!

alphalanos

Good info. Over $500 for some plastic headlights is ludicrous.

ekb16

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Hmotors FTW!!!
http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=10003

xJDMB16x

I think I might have the SIR headlights on my car but im not sure

projectgtr

WTF i bought mine for 230 euro direct from Honda, those are crazy prices guys, i had a tip and one was replaced, only figured out 3 months later that the one they replaced it with was a valeo one!!! only 1 person has ever noticed bar me, they are nearly identical but the 501 bulb sits ever so slightly lower in the Valeo one, i can post pics if people want. Ill be going for another brand new set shortly i think they just freshin up the car, think ill sell my old ones (well 18 month old) over to the states

xJDMB16x

post pics

NOFX

I Googled in case. It's the correct URL, but...
What makes you unsure?

NOFX

CTR or "SiR"?

Definitely interested in pics.

97EKcoupeNJ

bumpp

NOFX

What more do you want?