geebs

Well I hopped in my car and lowered the glove box in search for a cabin air filter slot. I didn't find one, so I got the USDM EPC and looked up my Civic. Come to find out, Honda didn't start using the evaporator housing with the cabin air filter slot until 98. So all of us with 96 or 97 Civic's, cant use it.
All 96 and 97 Civic's have the part number: 80201-SR3-A10 for the upper 80202-SR3-A00 for the lower
98 to 00 use 80201-S01-G00 uppe and 80202-S01-G00 lower..

EG2Driver

my car is a 4d made in Japan in 98 but does not have AC. From what i've read on this thread, this mod will work?

socallmechris

just ordered my parts, i cant wait to do this.

nice write up btw

Eran

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EG2Driver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my car is a 4d made in Japan in 98 but does not have AC. From what i've read on this thread, this mod will work?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nah, this mod doesn't work on cars without A/C. The evaporator box is different (ie, is there) on cars with A/C, and there's just a narrow slanted duct on the non-A/C vehicles.

BlackDeuceCoupe

LoL! I wonder which came first - the chicken or the egg?!?!

If and when I do this, I'm gonna modify that stupid glove box frame - make a removable center section!

Honda should have included a cabin filter in the USDM CiViC! That's a given, and...

There's no reason you should have to take your dash apart to get to the filter!

Then, again, Honda didn't include a cabin filter so I guess they didn't put much thought into the &^%$ glove box frame design.

Whatever! HVAC filters aren't rocket science...

Au contraire, I don't know why you couldn't just forget the OEM filter frame and foam strip, and use a HEPA filter or K&N panel filter, et cetera.

Hmmm... I'll have to ponder this.

Just out of curiosity, I think I'll go outside, pop the access panel off mine and see what's in there...

socallmechris

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There's no reason you should have to take your dash apart to get to the filter!
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i just did mine a few min ago. if you have a ratching 8mm box wrench none of the rest of the dash needs to come off

96ek_hx

nice info

BlackDeuceCoupe

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by socallmechris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just did mine a few min ago. if you have a ratching 8mm box wrench none of the rest of the dash needs to come off</TD></TR></TABLE>

~Cool!

I got the factory service manual, and it doesn't say anything about taking the dash apart!

It just says to remove 5 screws on the glove box frame - the screw and nut on "knee bolster" on the left side of the glove box - and the "passenger's dashboard lower cover" on the right side of the glove box.

NOFX

I took out the other two lower dash pieces to get to the bolt on the far left in this image. It was attached to the bar that goes in front of the slot for the cabin air filter.

PowerUser

I thought that something like this was possable after taking a quick look that little cover when I was installing my stereo.
Great write it dude!

BlackDeuceCoupe

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOFX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I took out the other two lower dash pieces to get to the bolt on the far left in this image. It was attached to the bar that goes in front of the slot for the cabin air filter.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not arguing with you, bro... BTW, thanks for taking the time to make this great mash-up!

I'm just saying, the factory service manual says to remove that "knee bolster" (light gray piece). It has a screw on the bottom (visible in your pic) and a nut at the top holding it in place.

Removing that bolster would make it a LOT easier getting at the screw you're talking about, yes?

Mingo

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nice job

NOFX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlackDeuceCoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not arguing with you, bro... BTW, thanks for taking the time to make this great mash-up!

I'm just saying, the factory service manual says to remove that "knee bolster" (light gray piece). It has a screw on the bottom (visible in your pic) and a nut at the top holding it in place.

Removing that bolster would make it a LOT easier getting at the screw you're talking about, yes? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Knee bolsters are in front of people. It sounds like you're talking about the panel that the 12 volt piece is in. That's what's covering up the one bolt (not a screw) I couldn't get to otherwise.

the only screws I see in the pic I just posted are on the glove box assembly.

I searched the manual and never found anything about getting to this area (without going a lot more in depth).

BlackDeuceCoupe

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That's what's covering up the one bolt (not a screw) I couldn't get to otherwise.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I see...

I'm a machinist by trade. A bolt is a screw with a nut on the end - e.g. screw+nut=bolt - that's all - that's the difference between a screw and a bolt!

For instance, 'head bolts' so called are technically 'head screws' because they don't have a nut on the end, but let's not argue over silly **** like that, okay?

Hold on, I'll scan my service manual and we'll see if that helps ya...



Modified by BlackDeuceCoupe at 4:03 PM 5/25/2008

BlackDeuceCoupe

BlackDeuceCoupe

Hope you don't mind me playing around with your pic...

I *think* that pesky hidden screw would be wide open if you remove the "knee bolster"!




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NOFX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlackDeuceCoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I see...

I'm a machinist by trade. A bolt is a screw with a nut on the end - e.g. screw+nut=bolt - that's all - that's the difference between a screw and a bolt!

For instance, 'head bolts' so called are technically 'head screws' because they don't have a nut on the end, but let's not argue over silly **** like that, okay?

Hold on, I'll scan my service manual and we'll see if that helps ya... </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not arguing. I see screws and bolts. I would call one a screw and one a bolt. It helps tell what I'm referring to.

It's been awhile since I did this, but I remember trying to remove that screw without removing the other stuff, but I ended up having to remove the rest of the parts to get to it.

nbcivic

excellent, i'll do this soon. idk i think there's a leaf stuck in there or something because when i turn the fan on i hear a ticking. as if something were scraping along the fan. Would this help?

TheJGB3

I just did this to my 2000 EX on Sat. I WAS able to get the 8MM bolt out with a ratcheting box wrench, and WITHOUT removing the driver's side lower panel and the 12v center panel. I used an air nozzle connected to my air compressor to blow out all the leaves/dirt/dust/pine needles/etc. Whoa! talk about a lot of stuff! Both of my arms, the pass seat, and the pass floormat were covered in debris! I think next weekend I will remove the big black plastic piece covering the cowl (located at the base of the windshield under the wipers and hood) and blow that out too (since the blower motor intake is located in there).


Modified by TheJGB3 at 10:02 PM 6/1/2008

z6hatchboy

Although i dont have a 6th gen, i have to say this is a great and informative write up, just like all the rest you have done. Keep it up

NOFX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheJGB3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just did this to my 2000 EX on Sat. I WAS able to get the 8MM bolt out with a ratcheting box wrench, and WITHOUT removing the driver's side lower panel and the 12v center panel. I used an air nozzle connected to my air compressor to blow out all the leaves/dirt/dust/pine needles/etc. Whoa! talk about a lot of stuff! Both of my arms, the pass seat, and the pass floormat were covered in debris! I think next weekend I will remove the black plastic piece covering the cowl and blow that out too (since the blower motor intake is located in there).</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for the confirmation, but I just realized I had this posted above the images already (in the first post):

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TheJGB3

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> NOFX - Thanks for the confirmation, but I just realized I had this posted above the images already (in the first post):
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*NOTE* You can skip some of the panel removal if you happen to have a ratcheting 8mm wrench. </TD></TR></TABLE>


I know you did. I was just clarifying for people that it could be done.

NOFX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheJGB3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I know you did. I was just clarifying for people that it could be done.</TD></TR></TABLE>


I must have not had a ratcheting wrench at that time for whatever reason. Maybe I don't have one that small. I think I do, but I could be wrong.

TheJGB3

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> NOFX - I must have not had a ratcheting wrench at that time for whatever reason. Maybe I don't have one that small. I think I do, but I could be wrong.
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Actually I used an 8MM bleeder wrench (non-ratcheting), and not a ratcheting wrench. (I just said I did to avoid any confusion). I haven't seen a ratcheting wrench that small (although you can use a 5/16" ratcheting battery bolt wrench very close to 8MM). I did have to remove the four screws in the 12v panel that I could get to, and pulled it out as far as possible to get to the 8MM bolt.


Modified by TheJGB3 at 10:12 PM 6/1/2008

Repawn

EDIT - I see someone else has already addressed this.

Just a quick note for those of us with a 96 civic cx hatch - this mod does not work. I wanted to do it - but once I took everything apart the piece that should come out in order to place the filter was not there. Maybe it is different for the coupe and the sedans.

PS anyone want to buy an air filter and filter frame?


Modified by Repawn at 4:57 AM 6/6/2008