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head gasket replacement without removing all of the timing belt

Old 06-21-2014, 04:23 AM
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Default head gasket replacement without removing all of the timing belt

D16y8 engine. I did a timing job a month ago on my car so I know all is good. Head gasket is starting to leak though...

My question, when I get the upper timing cover off is there anyway to loosen the tensioner pulley through the lower timing cover hole and can I just pop my timing belt off the camshaft sprocket vs taking the lower timing cover off and having to take the whole timing belt off?

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Default Re: head gasket replacement without removing all of the timing belt

Yes. Just loosen the tensioner bolt, push it aside, re tighten it to lock it in the loose position.

It may be a pain to line everything up again if the belt drops down a bit. You may he better off removing the timing cover. You'll still need to remove the belts and the upper motor mount anyway.
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Default Re: head gasket replacement without removing all of the timing belt

I'm using something like this, no need to remove the lower cover.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Antique-Socket-Style-Wrench-FORD-A-B-Special-Use-615-2-/151319900008?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233b5e6f68
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Default Re: head gasket replacement without removing all of the timing belt

My procedure is to put a jack on the oil pan, remove both mounts, and lower the engine enough to put a ratchet up in that areas.

The only extra step there is to remove the 2 14mm head bolts that hold the torque mount to the chassis. The rest of the business needs to come off anyway.

You can then jack the motor back up, bolt the torque mount in to support the engine, and go to work on the head gasket.
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Default Re: head gasket replacement without removing all of the timing belt

Hmm, good to know. I didn't pay attention when changing out my timing belt, so for dseries you need to remove the driver side post mount in order to remove the head.
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Default Re: head gasket replacement without removing all of the timing belt

No need to remove lower timing cover. I actually just finished up a HG change on my y7 yesterday.

I marked the tooth of the timing belt with white out on each side of the timing marks of the camshaft before loosening the tension bolt. When reinstalling, line up cam shaft marks with corresponding white out marks, retension belt, check timing and done!
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Default Re: head gasket replacement without removing all of the timing belt

This procedure seems to be only valid on the OBD2x (96+) engines.

On my 95 stock motor I don't see any access to the tensioner without pulling the crank pulley so as to remove the lower cover. I could be missing it but pretty sure on OBD1 motors it's all covered up.
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Default Re: head gasket replacement without removing all of the timing belt

they all have a little flap that allows for a 14mm socket...can be covered in dirt or never opened but I have yet to see one that didn't. Think about it why would they(Honda) make you remove the whole lower cover just to tighten the belt, it's there just got to look.
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Default Re: head gasket replacement without removing all of the timing belt

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This procedure seems to be only valid on the OBD2x (96+) engines.

On my 95 stock motor I don't see any access to the tensioner without pulling the crank pulley so as to remove the lower cover. I could be missing it but pretty sure on OBD1 motors it's all covered up.
You must remove the rubber plug in the lower timing belt cover to gain access to the tensioner bolt.
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Default Re: head gasket replacement without removing all of the timing belt

Awesome guys, never noticed the plug. And what's funny is I've looked at that diagram I don't know how many times and missed that detail.

I think it's easy to miss when looking from top down due to it being recessed. I will take a closer look next time.

Thanks again!
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