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Old 04-06-2009, 09:35 AM
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This thread is to inform you on how to loop your power steering rack on an EG chassis (also works for DC integras). If youre looking to do this on an EK chassis see Mr. EM1's thead here: https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/faq-power-steering-loop-96-00-civic-2538767/ Removing the PS system should be simple enough, just drain the fluid out of the reservoir/lines and unbolt everything. A turkey baster works well for emptying the reservoir quickly and cleanly.

Once you get down to the rack there should be 2 fittings you need to loop. One is 14mm X 1.5 and the other is 16mm X 1.5. I used these adapters (I ordered from this site too and they came in a few days): http://bakerprecision.com/adapt20.htm

Youll need part numbers FCM2240 and FCM2241. From there I used whats called socketless hose. Part number FCM1512 on this page ( http://bakerprecision.com/aqp1.htm ) fits on the adapters listed above. Part # FBN0600 is the hose I used to loop them, I bought 2 ft but you could probably get away with 1 ft. I didnt use a breather and I havent had any problems. I did drain a lot of the fluid out of the rack though, only leave a little in there to keep it lubricated. If you wanna use full SS braided off the adapter fittings you can do that and piece together your own lines. The hose im using has been working great though and its black so it stays out of sight. There will be a third hole in the rack that needs to be plugged. It should be a 14mm X 1.00, which is the same size as a flywheel bolt, which is what i used to plug it.

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Benefits:

-Improved steering response, better, more confident feeling through the steering wheel.
-Less weight
-Frees up power by removing the pump

Drawbacks:
-Heavier steering feel, especially when parking


Lots of people have argued that a breather is needed to relieve air pressure that might get trapped in the system. Obviously air will be trapped in the system with this setup but I have not noticed any extra resistance. I have another civic (EJ2) which has a true non-PS rack and the looped setup feels only slightly heavier, nothing significant. The looped setup is harder to turn at speeds < 5mph so parking can be a bit of a chore but in such lightweight cars it really isnt so bad.
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is there anywhere to get the adapters from, besides ordering online?
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NICE.. I was looking for this info, this also works when you swap a 94-01 Integra steering rack into a 92-95 Civic, right?

I need to change the steering rack on my 95 EG, but can't find a new one on my country, so im ordering a new one from a 2000 Integra
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Yep, this should work for any integra rack. In fact I dont think you need the extra bolt to plug up the third hole.
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nice.. thanks for the info Eddie
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Originally Posted by 93allmotorcoupe
This thread is to inform you on how to loop your power steering rack on an EG chassis (also works for DC integras). If youre looking to do this on an EK chassis see Mr. EM1's thead here: https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2538767 Removing the PS system should be simple enough, just drain the fluid out of the reservoir/lines and unbolt everything. A turkey baster works well for emptying the reservoir quickly and cleanly.

Once you get down to the rack there should be 2 fittings you need to loop. One is 14mm X 1.5 and the other is 16mm X 1.5. I used these adapters (I ordered from this site too and they came in a few days): http://bakerprecision.com/adapt20.htm

Youll need part numbers FCM2240 and FCM2241. From there I used whats called socketless hose. Part number FCM1512 on this page ( http://bakerprecision.com/aqp1.htm ) fits on the adapters listed above. Part # FBN0600 is the hose I used to loop them, I bought 2 ft but you could probably get away with 1 ft. I didnt use a breather and I havent had any problems. I did drain a lot of the fluid out of the rack though, only leave a little in there to keep it lubricated. If you wanna use full SS braided off the adapter fittings you can do that and piece together your own lines. The hose im using has been working great though and its black so it stays out of sight. There will be a third hole in the rack that needs to be plugged. It should be a 14mm X 1.00, which is the same size as a flywheel bolt, which is what i used to plug it.

Before:



Fittings:





After:





Benefits:

-Improved steering response, better, more confident feeling through the steering wheel.
-Less weight
-Frees up power by removing the pump

Drawbacks:
-Heavier steering feel, especially when parking


Lots of people have argued that a breather is needed to relieve air pressure that might get trapped in the system. Obviously air will be trapped in the system with this setup but I have not noticed any extra resistance. I have another civic (EJ2) which has a true non-PS rack and the looped setup feels only slightly heavier, nothing significant. The looped setup is harder to turn at speeds < 5mph so parking can be a bit of a chore but in such lightweight cars it really isnt so bad.


i dont care if this is almost old thread...but one question...14mm x 1.5 n 16mm - crx's ps rack has the same sizes?
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Does anyone know where to get a 14mm x 1.00 bolt? What part of the flywheel does it come off?
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Originally Posted by 93allmotorcoupe
In fact I dont think you need the extra bolt to plug up the third hole.
Old thread, but explain this statement please.
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Originally Posted by jxh_28
i dont care if this is almost old thread...but one question...14mm x 1.5 n 16mm - crx's ps rack has the same sizes?
I'm not at all familiar with a CRX rack, maybe somebody else can chime in. It's likely that they're a common size but I cannot say for sure.

Originally Posted by turbocivic101
Does anyone know where to get a 14mm x 1.00 bolt? What part of the flywheel does it come off?
This is the bolt that connects the flywheel to the crankshaft. I believe there are 8 of them? You can easily find it at your dealer or online, or I somehow winded up with a few extra that I'd be willing to send you.

Originally Posted by integrawow
Old thread, but explain this statement please.
This was in reference to the Integra PS rack. I don't know for certain because its been a while since I've seen one but I don't think they have the 3rd hole that needs to be plugged such as on the EG chassis. Sorry for the confusion. If anybody can clear this up for sure I'd appreciate it.
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if i wanted to add a breather where would it hook up to?
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Originally Posted by prsferna0918
if i wanted to add a breather where would it hook up to?
You'd cut the loop of hose at the highest point and place it in the middle, you use a brake resivoir or similar vented container.
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o ok thanks
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I know this is a very very old thread, but I'm in the process of the delete right now, now, does it delete that main hose that comes from the power steering motor come completely off, and do I need that sensor anymore as well? The sensor is green.
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will this same set up work on my 94 del sol?
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just found the thread, good write up!
Found this: http://www.devsportusa.com/DevSport-...-Kit_p_76.html

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thread pitch on the eg rack and the dc2 rack is the same?
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Default Re: FAQ: Power Steering Loop for 92-95 Civics (All EG/DC PS Racks)

Originally Posted by 93allmotorcoupe
There will be a third hole in the rack that needs to be plugged. It should be a 14mm X 1.00, which is the same size as a flywheel bolt, which is what i used to plug it.
sound like this is wrong

http://arp-bolts.com/kits/ARPkit-det...?RecordID=1260
M12 x 1.0 should be correct if the flywheel bolt fits
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What about the green plug that goes to the pump. Wheres does that plug go one the bypass has been done.
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ziptie it to the nearby wire harness so it's not in the way
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But does it need to be plugged in to the original place or leave it loose?
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