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Old 12-21-2011, 03:39 PM
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I finally finished the gsr swap in my 93 civic dx. The car was running fine and I was letting it run, revving it up making sure all was well and when I shut the door, the car shut off. No bogging, no knocking, no noises...it just instantly shut off after I shut the door. I checked the fuses, relays, plugs, connections...I couldn't find anything. The check engine light came on but I don't have the equipment to check the codes. The car will now crank, but it wont start.

Any ideas? ? ?
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to check codes. its very easy. dont over think it read this: https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/how-pull-cel-d4-srs-abs-codes-code-lists-1901557/

also dont keep trying to turn it over. make sure the timing belt didnt break. this happened to me when i was at a light and it was the timing belt, broke teeth, bent a few valves but nothing major.

also it could be the ignition coil in the distributor. check the FAQ area on how to replace/check it.

and before buying ****, check your grounds!, make sure battery is good, altenator is connected. a plug could of just fallen out.

check the easy free stuff before buying!!!

goodluck
Old 12-22-2011, 09:37 AM
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Thanks for the suggestions! If I have the time I will check this stuff later tonight and get back to you on what I find.
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Originally Posted by mayfly
to check codes. its very easy. dont over think it read this: https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1901557

also dont keep trying to turn it over. make sure the timing belt didnt break. this happened to me when i was at a light and it was the timing belt, broke teeth, bent a few valves but nothing major.

also it could be the ignition coil in the distributor. check the FAQ area on how to replace/check it.

and before buying ****, check your grounds!, make sure battery is good, altenator is connected. a plug could of just fallen out.

check the easy free stuff before buying!!!

goodluck
true u should go through all that before anything just to make everything good
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Same story here!!! Im about to say F^$# my honda, But after all its still MY HONDA.
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I couldnt get any codes out of it, but I did find out that I'm getting no spark from my dizzy. I will let y'all know what I find when I get the chance to check it out.
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i was gonna say "replace your dizzy" because that's exactly what my LS did to me a few weeks ago. If you're not getting any spark and your fuel pump isn't priming, check your main relay under the dash.
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Or just give it to me ill make it run perfect...

I would pull out a DVOM and test your coil, ground points and fuel pressure
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Originally Posted by sfar785
i was gonna say "replace your dizzy" because that's exactly what my LS did to me a few weeks ago. If you're not getting any spark and your fuel pump isn't priming, check your main relay under the dash.
This may be a "noob" question, but where exactly is the main relay located?

*EDIT: nevermind...I found it lol

Last edited by chikichimo; 12-31-2011 at 12:58 PM. Reason: found it!
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Originally Posted by Hidenplanvew
Or just give it to me ill make it run perfect...

I would pull out a DVOM and test your coil, ground points and fuel pressure
Where are you located?

I was actually going to go do that now! lol
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The driver's door is awfully close to the main relay. Check that the connector is fully seated, whether fuse 31 or 24 is blown, and whether the G101 ground on the thermostat housing is loose, disconnected, or corroded.

When you turn the key to ON(II), does the fuel pump prime for 2 seconds?
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Originally Posted by chikichimo
Where are you located?

I was actually going to go do that now! lol
colorado, just send it out
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make sure a ground didn't come lose, such as the one on the thermostat, it's easily overlooked during a swap
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
The driver's door is awfully close to the main relay. Check that the connector is fully seated, whether fuse 31 or 24 is blown, and whether the G101 ground on the thermostat housing is loose, disconnected, or corroded.

When you turn the key to ON(II), does the fuel pump prime for 2 seconds?
It was the passenger door that I closed when the car turned off. But I checked the main relay and it seemed to be alright. It clicks when I turn the key. I checked the ground on the thermostat housing and it was fine.

At the moment I have two ecu's; a chipped p05 and an obd1 p72. When the p05 is plugged in, the fuel pump doesn't prime...which is strange because the p05 is what the car was using when this whole problem started. But with the p72 the fuel pump primes for two seconds...?
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Does the engine start with the P72?
Old 01-03-2012, 04:00 PM
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It starts with neither of the two. Which is really starting to boggle my mind because the car was running fine with the p05 and BAM...shut the door and the car is f*cked. Won't start with either ecu.
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It's gotta be something easy unless it was just a coincidence that it quit working once the door was shut. I'm thinking (and I don't mean to beat a dead horse) but it sounds as if you have a lose wire. I'd check the grounds and what not before i did anything else like most everyone else stated.
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pull your valve cover off before going any further, stop cranking it. check your timing/belt.
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Originally Posted by Tkrizz
It's gotta be something easy unless it was just a coincidence that it quit working once the door was shut. I'm thinking (and I don't mean to beat a dead horse) but it sounds as if you have a lose wire. I'd check the grounds and what not before i did anything else like most everyone else stated.
I've checked all the grounds many times but I can check again. It probably is a coincidence, but it's so strange that the car was running just fine and then it just shut off.

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pull your valve cover off before going any further, stop cranking it. check your timing/belt.
I checked that and the timing belt is fine. No missing teeth and no rips or shredding.
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how's the spark tho? i re-read your thread and couldn't find if you checked to see if you had spark, i'd imagine you have tho.
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Originally Posted by sfar785
how's the spark tho? i re-read your thread and couldn't find if you checked to see if you had spark, i'd imagine you have tho.
I checked many times and I'm not getting spark. I don't yet have the equipment to check the coil, but the question is why did it just randomly stop? The engine and components ran fine for over 10k miles before the swap was even pulled so why would it randomly stop? I guess things fail, but it's so random lol
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Alrighty...I finally got ahold of a multimeter and I tested the coil. I guess it's supposed to be between .6 and .8 ohms, but it kept reading 0. I checked multiple times and I kept getting the same results.

Could this be the problem? Do I need a new coil?
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Replace the coil and go from there.
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Alright. I will have to check around for the best price...ones from the local auto stores are about $70-80 and ones online are anywhere from $20-100. I will let you guys know what happens when I get one though.
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Got a new coil and nothing has changed. I am getting mixed readings from the icm, though. So I need to find another one of those now lol


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