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Old 12-31-2010, 12:26 PM
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I have a log manifold for a new turbo set up and am not able to use the stock dipstick and tube. Has anyone relocated the dipstick to the timing cover side like on a D16Yx block? I know those go in the oil pump. Looking at the Z6 pump, I am not sure there is enough room to drill through. Has anyone done a dip stick relocation before?
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I would get a different manifold. With boost, oil pressure is crucial to longevity of your motor. So much so, that it isn't ever wise to do anything that would jeopordize losing pressure, or over pressurize for that matter. Maybe it was fab'd without oil dipstick functionality in mind. Maybe an inexperienced fabricator.
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Maybe it was just fabbed with the d16yx in mind?
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why not just run a y8 oil pump and get a y8 dip stick and tube. its a myth about the y8 oil pump. ive been running a stock y8 oil pump on my z6 with no oil pressure issues what so ever and i have a mechanical gauge to monitor this. z6's have 2 oiling ports for the rods unlike the y8 which maybe it doesn't flow enough in the y8 due to only having one hole to lube the rods. i dunno
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Take no chances if you're boosted. If you get the Y8 pump get it ported and shimmed for piece of mind.
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Default Re: D16Z6 dipstick re-location

Originally Posted by vtechjunkie
I would get a different manifold. With boost, oil pressure is crucial to longevity of your motor. So much so, that it isn't ever wise to do anything that would jeopordize losing pressure, or over pressurize for that matter. Maybe it was fab'd without oil dipstick functionality in mind. Maybe an inexperienced fabricator.
Not really going to happen. The manifolds are built custom. Long story, but we need ghetto/super cheap stuff to fit into the budget. We knew the dipstick was going to be an issue, but went ahead with the manifold design anyway.

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Maybe it was just fabbed with the d16yx in mind?
Not really, it was mocked up on a Z6.

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why not just run a y8 oil pump and get a y8 dip stick and tube. its a myth about the y8 oil pump. ive been running a stock y8 oil pump on my z6 with no oil pressure issues what so ever and i have a mechanical gauge to monitor this. z6's have 2 oiling ports for the rods unlike the y8 which maybe it doesn't flow enough in the y8 due to only having one hole to lube the rods. i dunno
We ran a y8 at a race last year and the motor blew up. Spun a bearing on the banking at Iowa speedway. I cant say for sure that the pump was the cause though.

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Take no chances if you're boosted. If you get the Y8 pump get it ported and shimmed for piece of mind.
I dont want to run a Y8 pump, but if it comes down to it, we will, and work it a bit to make sure it will last.

Thanks for the input.
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Default Re: D16Z6 dipstick re-location

thats a Y8 for ya(they are known for spinning rod bearings)...............only has one oiling hole for the rods. im running a z6 not a y8 and do not have these problems. im not reving past 7200-7500. z6 has 2 oiling holes for the bearings 2 is always better then one. if this was a y8 id say shim and port the pump but id say your alright.
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If you ran the D16Yx oil pump, you could have two dipsticks then, and be extra sure of your oil level.
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Default Re: D16Z6 dipstick re-location

i've done several dipstick relocations, just not on hondas, but they all work the same. you usually need to do this on chevy engines when moving it from a truck to a car. chevy likes to put them in horribly inappropriate spots for exhaust clearance and such

if you really don't want to use a y8 pump, i see 2 things you can do.

-try to bend the pipe to a gap in the intake manifold (this will make the dipstick a bitch to use, and you can often brake the tube)
-drill a hole into the oil pan and braise a tube onto it and use the stock dipstick. make it the same height as a stock dipstick tube and it will work. but you need to be absolutely certain its the same height (this is most easily done by keeping the old tube in place while making the new tube), and make sure its not anywhere near the crank. make it run right along the block and come into the pan on a 45 degree angle or less. oil will travel into the tube and function just like a regular dipstick tube.

i would get someone who has experience in braising to do this for you. just bring them the oil pan and mark a spot that you know will not have clearance issues. get them to braise a long tube onto it and when you get it home and on the engine cut it to the right length.
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