FuNkDrSpOt

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I was on a trip from Sac to SF and was doing my usual downshifting into 4th to power around slow *** people in the fast lane when my car stopped being so smooth with the shifts.

When driving around SF this is what would happen:

<FONT COLOR="red">1.</FONT> Car is really hard to get in gear. It's like you have to push the clutch in and push in the gear you want to go and after an extra second, it will fall in place.

<FONT COLOR="red">2.</FONT> 1st and 2nd gear would noticeably engage much sooner than it normally does and would shudder/shake the car until i got up to around 2k rpm. It almost feels like it's engaging way too soon and slipping until 2k, then it drives smooth

<FONT COLOR="red">3.</FONT> This was an intermittent issue. Pumping the clutch seemed to help a little.

<FONT COLOR="red">4.</FONT> The clutch pedal was shaking far more than i was ever used to.

<FONT COLOR="red">5.</FONT> Every once in a while when i slip out from a gear to neutral ( especially if I was on the freeway ) the car will bog down to almost stalling and then go back to normal.

Some background stuff that might help you in diagnosing my problem:

- The clutch pedal has had a real grainy ( like a feel when a part should be lubed but isn't getting it ) when pushing it down all the way when the car is driven more than 10 minutes.

- I haven't bled the CMC or any part of the tranny since I got the engine swap some 20k ago.

- I was just working on my car and i forgot to support the engine when I took off the 2 driver side motor mounts, causing the car to dip really low for a half second. BTW i was just changing my AC and alternator belts.

- I haven't had these problems until I was driving home from Modesto to Sac in a very 'spirited' manner. Lots of downshifts from 5th to 4th and high speed driving ( Not advocating it, just saying what i was doing to see if it can help diagnose the problem )

- I should have, but didn't replace the clutch when i got the swap. I haven't experienced any slippage despite testing out my torque damper.

THANKS!

<FONT SIZE="4"><FONT COLOR="red">***UPDATE***</FONT></FONT>
So i just finished dropping my transmission and installing a new exedy clutch kit. I can easily say that it was the clutch. The car is <FONT COLOR="red">BUTTER</FONT> smooth when shifting now. Now obviously greasing down all the tranny parts and the fluid drain helps but my clutch and flywheel were pretty bad.


Modified by FuNkDrSpOt at 4:02 AM 10/15/2007


Modified by FuNkDrSpOt at 4:03 AM 10/15/2007

96turbex

Check your clutch fluid to see if it is low. It could possibly be the throw-out bearing too. I had a throw-out bearing go bad and it seemed to make a vibration in the pedal. I don't know if that is what you are trying to put it as. You could have damaged the clutch hose also, when the motor dropped back. Causing the inside to colapse like brake hoses sometimes do. But I doubt that to be the case, but you never know till you check it.

Just some food for thought

FuNkDrSpOt

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clutch fluid is the first thing i checked.

Aquafina

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If the fluid level is good and you bled it properly. The CMC is probably going out. This happened to me before.

FuNkDrSpOt

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aquafina &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the fluid level is good and you bled it properly. The CMC is probably going out. This happened to me before.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's what I've heard from a previous thread due to my ability to fix the problem by pumping the clutch......god, more money into a car that I don't want to keep.....ghey


So anyways, does it matter which CMC I use? Can i use any civic or integra CMC, because i do have a gsr swap.

Aquafina

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I'm not sure if its universal or not. A new Honda CMC is only $80 or so.

FuNkDrSpOt

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So can anyone tell me the symptoms of a CMC, bearing and clutch going out? I don't have money and time to just throw at all these parts at once.

FuNkDrSpOt

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FuNkDrSpOt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So can anyone tell me the symptoms of a CMC, bearing and clutch going out? I don't have money and time to just throw at all these parts at once.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Aquafina

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Bearing will just make noise.

Clutch... Put in 5th, bounce it off the limiter (while completely stopped, no brakes) then dump it. If it stalls, you've got a little while until it goes out. If it slips and doesn't stall, replace the clutch.

CMC... Will be hard to put in gear, will sometimes stall when stopped if you don't have it in neutral.

FuNkDrSpOt

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So would the CMC explain why my clutch feels like it's engaging much too soon and why i have to rev to almost 2k just to get the car to not shake when i put it in gear? Is it that the CMC is having trouble regulating the pressure, which is causing the clutch to be applied as an all or nothing situation?

MeanGreenMachine

are you leaking behind the clutch pedal? is it wet back there? do you have to fill your clutch master cylinder all the time? does your friction point change???

my clutch fluid would always go low and my clutch pedal always got stuck to the floor. i bled the clutch, and nothing happened, same problem. i found the leak at my clutch slave cylinder and replaced that and problem solved. but i will be replacing my clutch master cylinder soon, i believe that the two components work together and when one goes out, it wont be long before the other goes out..

FuNkDrSpOt

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MeanGreenMachine &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you leaking behind the clutch pedal? is it wet back there? do you have to fill your clutch master cylinder all the time? does your friction point change???

my clutch fluid would always go low and my clutch pedal always got stuck to the floor. i bled the clutch, and nothing happened, same problem. i found the leak at my clutch slave cylinder and replaced that and problem solved. but i will be replacing my clutch master cylinder soon, i believe that the two components work together and when one goes out, it wont be long before the other goes out..</TD></TR></TABLE>

There is no fluid around the pedal that I can see but I did notice that there was a puddle of fluid in my driveway. I also noticed that there was fluid residue around the slave, but i can't be sure that it's from the slave or coolant from when i was messing with the radiator.

MeanGreenMachine

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FuNkDrSpOt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

There is no fluid around the pedal that I can see but I did notice that there was a puddle of fluid in my driveway. I also noticed that there was fluid residue around the slave, but i can't be sure that it's from the slave or coolant from when i was messing with the radiator.</TD></TR></TABLE>

if u suspect that the slave cylinder is leaking, spray some brake cleaner on it and get it all nice and clean. then keep an eye on it and see if any wet spots appear around the slave cylinder, if wet spots do appear, then id suspect that the clutch slave cylinder is leaking and will need to be replaced.

if u see or feel any fluid behind the clutch pedal, then more than likely it may be the clutch master cylinder.

FuNkDrSpOt

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MeanGreenMachine &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

if u suspect that the slave cylinder is leaking, spray some brake cleaner on it and get it all nice and clean. then keep an eye on it and see if any wet spots appear around the slave cylinder, if wet spots do appear, then id suspect that the clutch slave cylinder is leaking and will need to be replaced.

if u see or feel any fluid behind the clutch pedal, then more than likely it may be the clutch master cylinder.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I sprayed brake cleaner all around and I haven't noticed anything going on with the slave or the master cylinders. I AM hearing a slipping sound from my clutch when it starts to engage so the only thing i can think of is maybe a spring popped out and was making engaging harder for the car.

I did what the one guy said to do with trying to dump it in 5th and it burnt my clutch to high hell. It stopped the transmission from chattering and the clutch pedal from shaking so hard sometimes but now i hear that sound.

As soon as my pharmacology midterms are over I plan on dropping the tranny and seeing what's up. Hopefully it's just the clutch.

Aquafina

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It didn't stall, so the clutch is bad.

FuNkDrSpOt

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bump for update