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can i remove my flywheel bolts without power tools!

Old 07-06-2010, 12:24 PM
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:38 PM
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i would NOT use power tools on flywheel bolts. Simply get a long breaker bar along with your 12 point socket and torque them loose
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:49 PM
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put a 19mm w/ wrench on the flywheel and jamb it in the chassis and use a 12 socket to break them off.
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:57 PM
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:rofl: Do not use power tools.
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Old 07-06-2010, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: can i remove my flywheel bolts without power tools!

i tried that when i was taking mine off, didnt work at all, had them soaked in wd40 for 2 days and still nothing, i had to resort to an impact gun, which BARELY broke them free
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Old 07-06-2010, 04:30 PM
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you need a 3 foot braker bar it works on all sorts of bolts.
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Old 07-06-2010, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: can i remove my flywheel bolts without power tools!

i had to resort to an impact gun
Actually, impact guns have terrible angular torque, surprisingly. They really don't do much except tighten lugs fast (which can then be tightened better by a human)
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Any bolt put on a car can and most of the time should be taken off by human hands and manual tools. You put an impact gun on a weak bolt and hit the gun, somebody has to spend the rest of the day drilling and heating out a bolt...
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All i ever do is take one of the bolts that mates my engine to my gearbox.Tighten it in tight below my cam seal.The top most outward location.Then get a prybar,have one person jam the prybar up to the bolt and the flywheel and me crack the bolts its simple.Make sure you use a 17mm 12 point.11/16 has the tendency to strip the heads out.
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Originally Posted by SpecialBrownie
Actually, impact guns have terrible angular torque
what do you mean by this?
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Old 07-06-2010, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SpecialBrownie
You put an impact gun on a weak bolt and hit the gun, somebody has to spend the rest of the day drilling and heating out a bolt...
use common sense and this should not be a problem. if you try to tighten a valve cover bolt, cam cap, etc with an impact gun then you're asking for it. as far as removing bolts i find that they almost always break by hand rather than via an impact.
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I could have worded it wrong, but a 1/2 socket will give you greater torque on a lug then an impact (at least for tightening purposes) An impact torques parallel to the bolt while a manual 1/2 socket torques perpendicular (or at a 90 degree angle). In layman's terms, buying a plug in wrench is a waste of money when you can just take a few extra minutes to do it by hand even tighter. This angular torque idea of an impact works in some areas and doesn't in others. So by my own means, it's inconclusive but still not as effective as manual tools IMO.
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Default Re: can i remove my flywheel bolts without power tools!

It's all about leverage have a budy hold the crank pully bolt while you crank that suka loose on the other side
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Originally Posted by midnighteg-6
It's all about leverage have a budy hold the crank pully bolt while you crank that suka loose on the other side
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But use a wrench and socket with breaker bar (1/2)
get buddy to hold the wrench in place, extend wrench if needed, then you could untight the bolt with the 1/2 breaker and if needed add cheater bar.
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Yes. This is how I did mine just then

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/VietDaNinja/Mobile%20Uploads/20141021_171241.jpg
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Default Re: can i remove my flywheel bolts without power tools!

Originally Posted by EJeff8
I could have worded it wrong, but a 1/2 socket will give you greater torque on a lug then an impact (at least for tightening purposes) An impact torques parallel to the bolt while a manual 1/2 socket torques perpendicular (or at a 90 degree angle). In layman's terms, buying a plug in wrench is a waste of money when you can just take a few extra minutes to do it by hand even tighter. This angular torque idea of an impact works in some areas and doesn't in others. So by my own means, it's inconclusive but still not as effective as manual tools IMO.

How do you apply torque in a different direction (parallel vs perpendicular)? An impact applies torque in the same direction. It just does it via extremely rapid impacts. By hand, you're using pressure via slow movement.

Impacts come in varying strengths. So do humans. You may or may not be able to tighten a fastener tighter than an impact...depending on your strength and leverage vs. The impact's torque rating. My cordless has 1100LB-FT. Good luck.

What are all you people talking about "they should not be removed via impact"? Why? It's the easiest way and you have the least chance of damaging the heads if you know what you're doing. The manual may warn against it...because most people have no idea what they're doing with an impact, I guess.

But....yes, you can take them off without an impact. Lock the engine via the crank pulley (its best to use a crank pulley tool), and turn them counterclockwise. Its easy for the socket to slip and damage the heads...so be careful and use a NON deep well socket. They should come off with a little more force than a lug nut. They're torqued to 76LBS....but they have very fine threads.

I don't use loctite. If someone used loctite...it may explain why all y'all havin trouble getting flywheel bolts off.
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Putting the 4 year old thread back to bed now that it has been answered completely and thoroughly thanks to B serious. No more replies required.
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