Go Back   Honda-Tech > Honda and Acura Model-Specific Technical Forums > Honda Civic/Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
Search


Welcome to Honda-Tech!
Welcome to Honda-Tech.com.

You are currently viewing our forums as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Honda-Tech community today!


Reply
 
 
 
submit to reddit
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-20-2011, 04:19 PM   #1
Honda-Tech Member
 
swizz977's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 973
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default brake pedal goes too far down before braking

how do i fix the brake pedal when i press it it has to go so far down before it actually starts braking its so annoying 92 hatch
swizz977 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2011, 05:24 PM   #2
Honda-Tech Member
 
Ronnoc74's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Southern Indiana
Posts: 221
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

When was the last time you bled your brakes?
Ronnoc74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2011, 05:28 PM   #3
Honda-Tech Member
 
SeanK325's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: North Hollywood, CA
Posts: 1,042
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

probably air or dirt in the lines.
__________________
Sold To: nfamousdevil, civic nation, Arthas, rhd_ray
SeanK325 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2011, 04:45 AM   #4
The Grumpiest
 
grumblemarc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oak Ridge, TN, USA
Posts: 27,900
iTrader Rating: (4)
Send a message via AIM to grumblemarc Send a message via Yahoo to grumblemarc Send a message via Skype™ to grumblemarc
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

Do the pads need changing?
__________________
FAQs!--How to Turbocharge your Civic--Want a faster Civic?--DIYs
Quote:
Originally Posted by wantboost View Post
I wish more parents would beat their children, then maybe most of them wouldn't be total spoiled, self absorbed *********.
grumblemarc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2011, 08:39 AM   #5
Honda-Tech Member
 
pwebb0207's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: West Palm Beach, Florida
Posts: 152
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

could be air in the lines, fluid leak or fluid bypass.
pwebb0207 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 04:42 AM   #6
Honda-Tech Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 9
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

air, or low brake fluid for sure.
Carfanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 09:48 AM   #7
Honda-Tech Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 15
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

What happens if you pump the brake pedal? Does it engage earlier?
John Galt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 10:53 AM   #8
Honda-Tech Member
 
k20jonny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 10
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

check the brake pads before you do anything. could be as easy as a brake job. other than that i would bleed the brakes
k20jonny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 05:01 PM   #9
Honda-Tech Member
 
swizz977's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 973
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
What happens if you pump the brake pedal? Does it engage earlier?
yea it engages a little earlier why?
swizz977 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 06:16 PM   #10
Honda-Tech Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: BALTIMORE MD
Posts: 548
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

low brake pads does not cause a low brake pedal... possble air in the line(try bleeding first) if not master cylinder going bad
__________________
1995 Civic DX, 1998 Civic Hatch DX, 1994 Del Sol
1994 Civic Coupe DX , 1992 Civic Hatch CX
2001 CRV, 2000 s2000
95EG2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 06:46 PM   #11
Honda-Tech Member
 
strategy400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Victorville, CA, USA
Posts: 1,112
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

Quote:
Originally Posted by 95EG2 View Post
low brake pads does not cause a low brake pedal... possble air in the line(try bleeding first) if not master cylinder going bad
I would agree, but it always seems like my pedal is higher/firmer after a pad change.
strategy400 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 07:04 PM   #12
Ek Forever y0!
 
Libertariat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Beating people with a stick, GA
Posts: 16,705
iTrader Rating: (0)
Send a message via AIM to Libertariat
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

Quote:
Originally Posted by strategy400 View Post
I would agree, but it always seems like my pedal is higher/firmer after a pad change.
I agree. It could either be the brake pads being nearly gone, or there being air in the lines.
__________________
OMG LIBERTARIAT FINALLY HAS A BUILD
Need help choosing suspension? Click here!!

Finally for sale! Progress CS-II Coilovers (350/350) setup. Great for daily and entry/mid level autocross. Landed a 1st place win with these on 3/24

H23A w/ MFactory ITR trans 211whp 169ft/lb Stock block.
Libertariat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 07:10 PM   #13
Honda-Tech Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 35
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

Quote:
Originally Posted by strategy400 View Post
I would agree, but it always seems like my pedal is higher/firmer after a pad change.
the master cylinder adjustes the fluid as the break pads wear.
there is enough brake fluid in the master cylinder for ALL the brake pads to become completely worn(if you're not low on fluid). So the pedal travel shouldn't be affected as the friction material get thinner. (unless they are completely worn down lol)

My bet would be your brake fluid is contaminated.
it should be clear or amber in color.. If its a dark color you should really bleed your brakes.

Brake fluid needs some love too, not just your engine oil.
I was told brake fluid should be changed every 3 years on our hondas.
DaOne54 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2011, 07:44 AM   #14
Honda-Tech Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 15
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

Quote:
Originally Posted by swizz977 View Post
yea it engages a little earlier why?
Because I had the same problem. I did everything including new pads, fluid change and bleed. Problem still happened. I suspected the brake master cylinder was leaking internally. Honda service said they've never heard of one failing in that manner. Since it was the only thing I really suspected could be the cause, I replaced it. Problem gone.

It may be possible to overhaul the master cylinder, if so that would be cheaper, but since I was able to buy a new one at a fairly good price that's what I decided.
John Galt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2011, 08:02 AM   #15
Honda-Tech Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,382
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaOne54 View Post
Brake fluid needs some love too, not just your engine oil. I was told brake fluid should be changed every 3 years on our hondas.
x2 Check the level and the color.
__________________
Streetsideauto.com
Some say that he has trouble getting rid of the rust around his shoulder blades...
...and that he's never learned how to use an automatic transmission...
StreetsideStig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2011, 08:19 AM   #16
Honda-Tech Member
 
swizz977's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 973
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

i just got a new master but not a new booster im gonna try to bleed everything the pads are brand new
swizz977 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2011, 11:39 AM   #17
Honda-Tech Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 35
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

I think if the master cylinder was internally bypassing, your brake pedal would sink to the floor once you were completely stopped (like waiting for the light to turn green). Unless its really bad already lol.

Remember when you are bleeding your brakes, (if your doing a 2 man bleed) to put one foot underneath the pedal, so that the pedal doesnt come down all the way down.
or else all the dirt at the bottom of your brake cylinders could be pushed up and cause some damage. You dont want leaking brake cylinders a week later after you bleed your brakes lol
DaOne54 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2011, 02:00 AM   #18
Honda-Tech Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 15
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaOne54 View Post
I think if the master cylinder was internally bypassing, your brake pedal would sink to the floor once you were completely stopped (like waiting for the light to turn green). Unless its really bad already lol.
That's pretty much what was happening, except it would sink nearly to the floor... not all the way. It didn't happen all the time either, just often enough to be scary. A quick pump of the brake pedal, once was enough, brought it back up.

The master cylinder was really old, over 300,000 miles, and yes it's a good idea to change brake fluid once in a while - it had been over five years, maybe ten...
John Galt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2011, 04:34 AM   #19
Honda-Tech Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,382
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaOne54 View Post
Remember when you are bleeding your brakes, (if your doing a 2 man bleed) to put one foot underneath the pedal, so that the pedal doesnt come down all the way down.
or else all the dirt at the bottom of your brake cylinders could be pushed up and cause some damage. You dont want leaking brake cylinders a week later after you bleed your brakes lol
I never even thought about this. Good advice!
__________________
Streetsideauto.com
Some say that he has trouble getting rid of the rust around his shoulder blades...
...and that he's never learned how to use an automatic transmission...
StreetsideStig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2011, 08:35 AM   #20
Honda-Tech Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 7
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: brake pedal goes too far down before braking

I agree if you have to pump it and it always sinks and there are no leaks then its the master
Keebler.89civ is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
 
submit to reddit
Reply

Tags
1992, accord, booster, brake, breaking, dowm, engadge, engage, floor, fluid, honda, integra, low, pedal, travel

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
brake pedal goes too far down before braking swizz977 Suspension & Brakes 3 05-22-2011 08:52 PM
Soft brake pedal feel namewasdallas Suspension & Brakes 13 12-30-2010 07:11 AM
96 cx hatch - brakes do not engage until pedal is near floor fernando. Honda Civic/Del Sol (1992 - 2000) 9 10-08-2010 01:12 PM
Soft Brake Pedal, Lots of pad! bitter rod Ridgeline : MDX : Odyssey : Pilot : RDX 10 08-28-2010 06:30 AM
excessive brake pedal travel joelsolers Acura Integra 3 08-21-2001 08:42 AM



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:15 AM.



2014 Copyright, InternetBrands Inc.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Honda and the Honda marquee are registered trademarks of the American Honda Motor Company, Inc. Neither American Honda Motor Company nor its subsidiaries or affiliates shall bear any responsibility for Honda-Tech.com content, comments, or advertising. Honda-Tech.com is not affiliated with American Honda Motor Company in any way. American Honda Motor Company does not sponsor, support, or endorse Honda-Tech.com in any way. Copyright/trademark/sales mark infringements are not intended or implied.
Emails & Contact Details