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Old 04-01-2004, 06:05 PM
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I dab oil on the stud before fastening on the lug nuts to spec. Am I alone ? My Paps told me that it will prevent seizing or the lug "freezing" on there like cement.
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I aint gonna lie..

I dont do it

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me neither
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not here

and the only time i have ever heard of "freezeing" is when you have a bolt and a nut and both are titanium
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Default Re: Am I the only one who dabs oil on the stud before fastening lug nuts ? (slammed_93_hatch)

Oh yeah that is a good old trick yeah I do it, my dad has always done it. Nothing wrong with doing this don't let anyone tell you different.
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nah...ur not alone...i do it too
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Default Re: Am I the only one who dabs oil on the stud before fastening lug nuts ? (SOHC_MShue)

Thats kinda interesting. It would be like when your building a engine you put oil on the thread so you get a more accurate torque reading. I would just make sure to check the torque after 30 or so miles to make sure it holds.

As far as seizing.
As long as you torque the nug nuts to spec (with a torque wrench), and rotate your tires regulary. The lugs wont have enough time to seize.

When ever I see someone with a frozen lugnut its usally because one of these
A: some clown put 300ftlbs of torque on it.
B: the tires havent been rotated in more than a year
C:sometimes people just have bad luck
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by func-tion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats kinda interesting. It would be like when your building a engine you put oil on the thread so you get a more accurate torque reading. I would just make sure to check the torque after 30 or so miles to make sure it holds.

As far as seizing.
As long as you torque the nug nuts to spec (with a torque wrench), and rotate your tires regulary. The lugs wont have enough time to seize.

When ever I see someone with a frozen lugnut its usally because one of these
A: some clown put 300ftlbs of torque on it.
B: the tires havent been rotated in more than a year
C:sometimes people just have bad luck</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah very true also some of us live where we get snow and ice and they use a crap load of salt on the roads.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by haccord2.2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah very true also some of us live where we get snow and ice and they use a crap load of salt on the roads.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Snow??? Whats snow? hehe thats why I added the bad luck.
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I dab some anti-seize on all the lugs about twice a year, and I change my wheels/tires very regularly.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by func-tion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Snow??? Whats snow? hehe thats why I added the bad luck. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Lol it is all good I wish I lived where it didn't snow.
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Default Re: Am I the only one who dabs oil on the stud before fastening lug nuts ? (haccord2.2)

Any lubricant should work. Nothing wrong with doing this.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any lubricant should work. Nothing wrong with doing this.</TD></TR></TABLE>

But is it needed?
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Its a good idea. I never have done it but also never had a problem with lug nuts siezing. I do it to head bolts and such when assembling just out of habit.
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i use PB BLASTER any time i put any bolt or nut back on. that way it not only lubricates but also prevents rust.
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never heard of this...

and i never tighten my lug nuts to the max. noting happens though. but one time front left got loosen and rims where shaking on freeway. becuz i told my younger bro to tighten it. i was too lazy that time.
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Default Re: Am I the only one who dabs oil on the stud before fastening lug nuts ? (elwood)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by elwood &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

But is it needed? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Lugnuts seize, that is a fact. So why not do it?
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Default Re: Am I the only one who dabs oil on the stud before fastening lug nuts ? (MichaelJComputer)

i use copperslip. get it free at work so why not. nothing worse then fighting a bolt
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MichaelJComputer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Lugnuts seize, that is a fact. So why not do it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Heard that if you do use a lubricant on your lugnuts, that it will cause them not to torque down properly and 'stretch' the studs--hence leading to failure of the studs.

Keep them clean with WD40 then wipe off, but lubing them isn't a great idea IMO.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Heard that if you do use a lubricant on your lugnuts, that it will cause them not to torque down properly and 'stretch' the studs--hence leading to failure of the studs.
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if thats true then shouldnt a lot of high performence engines using ARP studs have their heads flying off? ARP gives u some lube with their studs and bolts so that you can get an accurate reading on torque and it doesnt affect the life of the studs at all.
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I cannot stand lug nuts. After stripping 2 (and 1 of them causing me to screw up my rim) I put anti-seize lubricant on all my lug bolts and the insides of my lug nuts. Not a single problem since.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NA_95d16z6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

if thats true then shouldnt a lot of high performence engines using ARP studs have their heads flying off? ARP gives u some lube with their studs and bolts so that you can get an accurate reading on torque and it doesnt affect the life of the studs at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Different application, so I don't think the comparison is valid. And the wheels don't fly off--they just snap the studs off when you try to put 75ft/lbs on them.

I'm just telling you what I heard. Cleaning them with WD40 will work just fine, and I have never seen a wheelstud freeze to the lugnut.
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Default Re: (xavior66)

Why dont' you guys use anti-seize ? Its far more clean than using a dab of oil and it's cheap.

WD40 also works great.

But no i don't see anything wrong by using oil. I used to do it all the time.
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Default Re: Am I the only one who dabs oil on the stud before fastening lug nuts ? (Todd00)

Ok, let me clarify a little bit more--just make darn sure that you do not get grease or oil on the tapered part of the lugnut. That's where you'll try to torque and you'll end up putting a lot more torque on the studs than you want to, because the grease will cause the nut to slip on the face of the wheel. Not good.
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Default Re: Am I the only one who dabs oil on the stud before fastening lug nuts ? (Si Arn)

I always clean and put some kind of oil on my own bolts for my car, but for other cars i work on i don't. Seems like a nice clean lubed bolt is a happy bolt.


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