superspadez

Well title says it. On my 5th one now. Could bad ign switch cause this? When the check engine light was on due to o2 it flickerd not flash but fliccker?? And when it did the temp gauge jumps up and down kinda quick. This is my winter beater and I can't even drive it cause the starters keep shitting!! ideas?? Taken it to a shop and when they have it it starts up every time for 2 days. Then as soon as I take it home it acts up.

-99 em1 si with h2b 130k on chassis and trans
-Stater only engage when I slam my door shut? Then sometimes it works after I shut it off
-All grounds have been sanded down to bare metal 5 times now.
-battery is new so is neg terminal, pos terminal cleaned not coroded
-no fuses blow when ever I replace stater
-when lights are on they don't dim when I try to start it.
-sometimes while driving temp gauge jumps up and down like when turning or going over bumps
-speedo jumps around sometimes when trying to start too?
- wtf is going on ?? Lol was running great till the OEM starter when out

tony_2018

h2b........seems like a wiring issue. Best bet is to start looking at the start cut relay that sits next to the fusebox in the dash.

Also you said winter beater, this gives me the assumption that there are corrosion issues happening.

superspadez

Well this is the first winter its ever seen.. And I did the swap, all wires that were cut was soldered shrink wrapped and taped. Start cut relay?? Starter relay?? Would that really cause it to go out? And some time when I try to start itbuzzes . till I slam my door then vroom.

tony_2018

You might want to comb through your wiring, something is amiss. It is rare that the gauge cluster would act up but if you did some sort of wiring than I would suggest going through it. Had a similar issue and it was indeed my wiring.

superspadez

Yeah I was planning to do that this weekend. Look through the wires that I extended. And take dash out. Gotta do this in the drive way. No room in garage....20° out

Humphrizzle

replace with oem starter.

superspadez

Thinking of doing that. But after all those starters I don't think I want to fry an OEM starter if I have an electrical issue

Eight09

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Check your ecu and transmission ground. Weird **** happens when your grounds aren't right.

axis11

When the starter wont engage, do you hear the solenoid clicking?
Did you perform bench tests before installing the starters?

NotARaCist

iTrader: (1)

The fact that you have to slam your door to get the car to shut makes it extremely obvious that there is a wiring problem somewhere. You need to go back over EVERYTHING you fucked with and find the problem. We can't do that for you.

Former User

Sounds like a bad ground. Measure resistance between the body of the starter motor and the (-) battery post.

lostforawhile

when you say bad starter? we need more information, what exactly is making you think it's bad? since the starter motor itself pulls current directly from the battery, and the solenoid doesn't really draw that much current, if the solenoid is clicking, when you turn the key, the problem is probably elsewhere then the wiring inside the car. where are you getting these starters? if you say advance or autozone, then thats probably the issue, it's not uncommon for people to get 2-3 sometimes even 4 **** starters from them, in a row. GO through the start circuit wiring, if you confirm that voltage is reaching the solenoid, and nothing is happening, and you have verified the cable from the battery and the grounds are good, then get a real starter. Find an automotive electrical service place, find out what brand they use, and buy that, they won't use **** brands, as they have to warranty the work, and they don't want to constantly change starters for customers

superspadez

Tested this one 4 times before taking it home

superspadez

I'm not good with measuring resistance....or anything with a volt meter. If you can give me an idea how I would do that please??

superspadez

I have gone over pretty much everything I fucked with that I know how to do and its been at a shop and when it is nothing funky happens, until I get it home then all sorts of ****.

superspadez

Starters are from auto zone. Well I don't know how to test voltage. I've done my best at what I can do and I just don't get the volt meeter stuff.

axis11

Use your jumper cables.1 wire only
Connect one end of the cable to negative battery post.
Connect the other end to the starter housing.Fire it up.
If the starter works,search for the ground fault between battery post and stsrter housing. Check the ground terminal that bolts on to the transmission. Clean the starter housing and the point in the transmission where it is attached.

superspadez

I get all the starters tested twice before I bring it home and when I bring it back a few days later they test bad . ?? Would Bad ground short the starer? I'm pretty sure all the grounds from both connections are sanded the **** out of and tight every time.

superspadez

Done something similar to that on all the starters. But instead of jumper cables I use screw driver right at the starter to have it kick on with the pos and this other plug that pulls right off. Idk if you know what I'm saying but that's the only way I've learned how to do it. And when slamming the door shut don't work I try my other method that I mentioned and starter doesn't do anything but click once?

axis11

You are jumping the positive wire.
Im asking you to run a wire so you can eliminate the possibility of a faulty ground. Or do as RonJ said and measure resistance. Sanding or good looking grounds doesnt guarantee anything.

axis11

You are jumping the positive wire.
Im asking you to run a wire so you can eliminate the possibility of a faulty ground. Or do as RonJ said and measure resistance. Sanding or good looking grounds doesnt guarantee anything.

tony_2018

Yeah there are 2 grounding points near the driver side dash. I know about this because I couldn't get the power door locks, windows to work. Then I remembered to check for ground and sure enough there was one I missed because it was sitting behind a bulky harness.

tony_2018

Cold weather could be playing a part in this.....

Former User

Do you have a multimeter? If so, post a picture of it.

lostforawhile

thats the problem, never buy anything electrical from them, a bad starter will work fine out of the car because there is no resistance to the motor turning, but with it having to turn the engine, there won't be enough current flowing across the solenoid contacts to turn the motor, 90 percent of starter problems are bad contacts in the solenoid, they use the cheapest **** re builders there are, and if a part can barely meet spec, it goes back in