Notices
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

97 Civic Jumpy Tach (solved)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-23-2015, 06:20 PM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
CivicSmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default 97 Civic Jumpy Tach (solved)

Civic LX, with a jumping tach (steady idel) that started to have stalling issues. I replaced the ICM and the stalling issues went away but the tach is still jumping? Isn't that tach controlled by the ICM? Any ideas?
Old 09-23-2015, 06:41 PM
  #2  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Former User's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,219
Likes: 0
Received 44 Likes on 22 Posts
Default re: 97 Civic Jumpy Tach (solved)

Ohm test the blue tach wire attached to the ICM.
Old 09-24-2015, 04:58 AM
  #3  
Loves Tossing Salad
 
09chaplak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: They all look like little ants
Posts: 1,067
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 10 Posts
Default re: 97 Civic Jumpy Tach (solved)

Check the CFK wires attached to the timing belt cover. It runs down from the harmonic balancer up around the alternator. Make sure that is still intact. If there is any sign of damage, you may have shorted out the tach in the cluster. Happened to me after doing a timing belt change. I forgot to secure the sensor wires on the cover and the alternator belt chewed through it.
Old 09-30-2015, 06:41 AM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
CivicSmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default re: 97 Civic Jumpy Tach (solved)

The wires are intact 09 chaplak.

RonJ, how do I ohm test a wire when I can only access one end of it?
Do I ohm test from the ICM to the distributor pig tail?
Old 09-30-2015, 07:11 AM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Former User's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,219
Likes: 0
Received 44 Likes on 22 Posts
Default re: 97 Civic Jumpy Tach (solved)

Originally Posted by CivicSmith
The wires are intact 09 chaplak.

RonJ, how do I ohm test a wire when I can only access one end of it?
Do I ohm test from the ICM to the distributor pig tail?
You have access to both ends - ICM and gauge cluster connector.

You can ground one end of the wire and test continuity to body ground to look for an open.

You can unplug both ends and test for continuity to body ground to look for a short.
Old 09-30-2015, 07:26 AM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
CivicSmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default re: 97 Civic Jumpy Tach (solved)

Update: I just noticed a stutter in the idle at around 35mph. It kind of felt like misfire, but no CEL. I was able to duplicate the incident a couple more times, no CEL. I am thinking that is may be spark related? Good compression, 40psi fuel pressure. So maybe the tach is reading correctly???
Old 09-30-2015, 03:16 PM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Former User's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,219
Likes: 0
Received 44 Likes on 22 Posts
Default re: 97 Civic Jumpy Tach (solved)

How do you know there are no CEL codes?
Old 09-30-2015, 04:37 PM
  #8  
Honda-Tech Member
 
tamboo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: sleeping in a 368k 95 gs-r
Posts: 1,975
Likes: 0
Received 41 Likes on 41 Posts
Default re: 97 Civic Jumpy Tach (solved)

coil and icm will strand you eventually if you dont carry spares and tools.
jumpy tach is classic bad icm symptom.
be prepared is the boy scout's marching song.

Advanced Ignition Troubleshooting - Team Integra Forums - Team Integra

Starting Problems

Old 10-02-2015, 05:41 AM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
CivicSmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default re: 97 Civic Jumpy Tach (solved)

I have been scanning the OBD system and there are no codes being thrown. Good advice tamboo.

So I was being lazy doing some testing and put the distributor back on with only the TOP bolt holding it and went for a drive... NO MORE JUMPY TACH!!! That must be a coincidence, so I reinstalled the front bolt and took for a drive, The tach was jumpy! Again I took out the other bolts and again, NO MORE JUMPY TACH! 5 test drives later and still NO jumpy tach! How is this possible?
Old 10-02-2015, 05:59 AM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Former User's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,219
Likes: 0
Received 44 Likes on 22 Posts
Default re: 97 Civic Jumpy Tach (solved)

Originally Posted by CivicSmith
So I was being lazy doing some testing and put the distributor back on with only the TOP bolt holding it and went for a drive... NO MORE JUMPY TACH!!! That must be a coincidence, so I reinstalled the front bolt and took for a drive, The tach was jumpy! Again I took out the other bolts and again, NO MORE JUMPY TACH! 5 test drives later and still NO jumpy tach! How is this possible?
Does jumpy tach equate to engine misfiring/running poorly or does the engine run smoothly when tach is jumping?
Old 10-05-2015, 05:17 AM
  #11  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
CivicSmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default re: 97 Civic Jumpy Tach (solved)

I thought that the jumpy tach was unrelated to the RPM of the engine just because it was SO sporadic. However, I listened very closely and discovered that there was a correlation. Driven the car 100 miles now and still no jumpy tach or rpm, but mild shutters (misfires) when holding a low speed (35mph).
Old 04-26-2016, 05:21 AM
  #12  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
CivicSmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default re: 97 Civic Jumpy Tach (solved)

Just to finish this thread, the shutter at 35 was tire related. I replaced the distributor and never had an issue with the jumping tach or RPM again.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ryaned380
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
15
10-05-2010 02:42 PM
CLE
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
12
10-31-2007 07:31 PM
prelude_93vtec
Honda Prelude
15
06-28-2007 03:00 PM
Mikey3000
Tech / Misc
3
09-06-2006 02:32 PM
zcivicz
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
11
11-21-2004 10:10 AM



Quick Reply: 97 Civic Jumpy Tach (solved)



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:13 AM.