seane51

ive had the car for going on 5 years now and have never replaced the clutch. ive bled it before long trips but have never had a problem with it or shifting in general. Now it feels like the third and fourth gear synchros are completely gone it grinds going in no matter what unless I let the crank slow all the down to idle in between shifts. I feel no strange lack or extra pressure when pressing the pedal down and engaging but it feels like it wont disengage all the way, I still have drive to the wheel but the rpms and the rate of acceleration don't match up, it sound like a beginner driver is riding the clutch. I had kinda thought replacing the clutch would need to happen soon but im not sure why the clutch doesn't want to disengage..
any ideas?

SpokaneSpeed

Have you had someone press the clutch pedal in and out while you watch the slave cylinder to confirm it's moving back and forth properly?

Former User

Have you checked the transmission fluid level? Have you ever replace it?

seane51

No i havent observed the cylinder but i did bleed it there was no air in the lines and i have replaced it i used motor oil took a quart and a half and i checked it a month or so ago and the level i still at the fill bolt level

SpokaneSpeed

What weight motor oil? Motor oil is only to be used in place of Honda MTF in a pinch and should be replaced with MTF as soon as possible. Don't get me wrong, I've ran 5-30 in a honda manual before with no issues but it's not the correct fluid..

seane51

I ran 10-30

seane51

I guess at this point.im more asking "should a clutch kit including preasure plate, clutch, throw out bearing, and replacement bolts be enough to take care of it or.is there more to it besides the slave cylinder that i need to account for?"

SpokaneSpeed

10-30 is the wrong weight of you're going to use motor oil. It should be 5-30. Can't say for sure if that's your issue but I would at least start with the correct fluid.

seane51

Ok so im not very well versed in the clutch system but mechanically Speaking i fail to see how the wrong Weight and oil would have an affect on anything but how well the gears operate themselves. So since thats kinda a side issur that will be taken care of with the rest of the clutch is there anything related to my actual problem at hand that hasnt been mentioned before i start the job? Im not trying to be a bitch or nothing but everyone seems to be dancing around my issue.. if you dont know dont comment?

SpokaneSpeed

You mentioned grinding - which is often caused by fluid related issues.. wrong fluid, low fluid, etc.....

seane51

only in two gears tho third and fourth, would the wrong weight maybe change a pressure variable in the overall operation?

Former User

It's clear you have the answers and don't need help. I'll lock this thread to refocus members on worthy threads.

TomCat39

Just for anyone who stumbles across this locked thread.... Honda manual transmission 92-95 and I believe 96-00 use 10w30 conventional motor oil if you are not going to use MTF.

Also as of the latest formula of Honda MTF, 10w30 is actually better as reported by some experienced technicians and rebuilders.

Torco MTF is probably the best fluid available.

5w30 is NOT recommended for older Honda manual transmissions. Wanted to clear up that misinformation.

Your two (three) best options currently is conventional 10w30 or Torco MTF or RTF fluid.