911awesomeness

I have a 1993 honda del sol si, that won't start.The car had it's common issues. I would put the key in the on position, wait for it to click, engine light woulf click and then go off anf after that I could start the car.

The other day I started it to park it in the drive way, started up as usual. I turned it off and then decided I wanted to go somewhere. When I went to turn it back on it wouldn't. All the lights came om fine, radio, a/c etc. Car did the usual click, engine light off but the car wouldn't crank! NOTHING, just silent. I checked the battery first, 12v. (Good),: I took off the starter and had AZ check it. It worked perfectly fine. (Good),: installed it back on but now the car still won't start and now it just makes a buzzing sound..Sounds like its coming from under the manifold.?

My car is a manual, so I thought to check the clutch stopper/rubber things and sure enough it had broken off. So I put my hand up there to engage the switch myself and tried turning the key to start and still NOTHING! just the buzzing sound..

((((((I have all the basics working)))))

::Could it be the ignition module, main relay, alternator(haven't checked that yet), or possibly something else im forgetting.

What could it be. Please Help.

Sorry for the longness of the post.

mangogsr

My civic did the same thing. Parked at walmart. Went to start my car up and nothing. Everything worked. It turned out to be my clutch safety switch. I took a wire and jumped it. And it fired right up. My little rubber/plastic grommet broke off too. You might not have the same problem, but just trying to help. Good luck. Might also be a fuse..

RoOsKiE

Sounds like an ignition switch to me, set up a temporary relay, to bypass ignition

911awesomeness

How do you jump it? And well I was gonna try and work on it today, but now the car is completely dead...

Nothing was left running, so I'm thinking whatever that buzzing sound was killed my battery?

911awesomeness

I will try that as well once, I figure out what killed my battery?.. I'm gonna have to ask my uncle if I can use his tools. I miss my car. Hahahhaah,

911awesomeness

It's not the ignition switch. Its the NSS, I really don't feel like buying the switch sense I am very careful to keep my car in N when I start it. So I am probably gonna disable it. The car started when I jumped the wires from the engine bay.

As to why my battery died again after charging it back up is a mystery. The buzzing sound still was going when I started the car. The key, is now stuck in the ignition? Is their anyways to unlock it so it will come out.? Will taking the cylinder out and putting it back in release the key?

Anyways, thanks in advance. Hopefully I get it running by tomorrow.

911awesomeness

Former User

Install a new rubber stopper and then charge or replace the battery.

911awesomeness

Would that make it work? I press it with my finger and the car still won't start. I think the switch just went out all my fuses are fine. The battery tested good in the load test? I just don't know why it's dying. Its only a year old. Yellowtop.

If disabling doesn't work I'll get the part.

And if I may do you know how to release the key?

Thanks you,

10psiLsEf2

Get a piece of wire about 1 foot long.

Go to your starter find the small signal wire.

Make sure your cars in neutral with ignition on.

Now take one end of your piece of wire, place it on the starter signal connector.

Now the other side of your wire touch your POSITIVE battery terminal.

If your starter engages your not getting power from ignition switch down to starter.

Also check the big starter wire for a tight fit.

The large starter wire goes from your starter to your positive battery terminal.

Make sure thats tight and clean


Good luck

911awesomeness

I did that already, it's working properly. I'm just stumped, thank you though. I'll keep trying.

JarvisW

Take the main relay out, take it (CAREFULLY) apart, and resolder the connections. They were kinda sloppy with it, and I've had to do it to mine when it was acting like this..

At least its easy to get to, and free!

Not sure where, but I think there is a writeup on how to do it, but its really easy, just take it slow when removing the case.

Former User

12V indicates a battery low on charge. Charge it and install a new rubber stopper.

10psiLsEf2

now check for voltage at the starter signal wire while trying to turn the key to start car.

if you dont have 12v either that starter signal wire is broken from ignition switch to starter or the ignition switch is bad

911awesomeness

Ok, so did everything you guys instructed me to do. I did main relay just in case, rubber stopper, battery is 12.999, ignition checked and everything went well. Still nothing,

Even unplugged nss put some wire in the plug to disable it nothing, got a new switch, nothing.

Key is still stuck in the ignition. Maybe the pin broke or its locked up, and the buzzing sound is still there in the engine bay.

I will be double checking everything on Saturday or when I get the time again just in case. Thanks again everyone for helping. Hopefully I get it figured out and then posting what the problem was.

10psiLsEf2

So when you turn your key trying to start the car do you have power at the small wire on the starter?

mangogsr

Yes! Neutral safety switch is what I meant not clutch safety switch. But I'm not sure how to jump it. My buddy did it and it worked like normal. Except you could start the car without pressing the clutch. I'm sure there is a thread on it somewhere..

10psiLsEf2

So you have a bad starter if you say you have power at the signal wire while trying to crank.

Neutral safety switch is a simple switch. If you wana jump it, its like pulling codes from a obd1 ecu.

Get a wire and jump the 2 pin connector. Or you can cut the connector and solder and heat shrink the two wires together.

911awesomeness

So I figured it out. The buzzing sound was from the starter connections. When it was re installed, they connected the wrong ones. -___- I was just gonna clean off all the grounds again today and when I looked at the starter it didn't look right. So I took the bolts off and then connected them to the right ones, turned key, and the buzzing was gone.

Waited for the engine light to come off and bam. Fired up nicely. (Slap to the face). All this time. Sometimes even the well off mechanics can make a silly mistake.

Thanks again everyone for the help. And it was the nss anyways that I had to replace. Just the grommet though.

Hopefully it helps someone out.