[FAQ] D16Y7 / Y8 MINI-ME WRITE-UP.... WITH PICS (56k, maybe not)
#226
Honda-Tech Member
Re: [FAQ] D16Y7 / Y8 MINI-ME WRITE-UP.... WITH PICS (56k, maybe not)
He's confusing the Z6 and Y7/Y8 blocks
Yes there is an oil jet block off to remove on a Z6 block, but not on a Y7/Y8 block.
For VTEC on a Y7 block, you don't have to do ANYTHING to the block except add a knock sensor. All the rest of the work in head/manifold-related.
Yes there is an oil jet block off to remove on a Z6 block, but not on a Y7/Y8 block.
For VTEC on a Y7 block, you don't have to do ANYTHING to the block except add a knock sensor. All the rest of the work in head/manifold-related.
Thanks for confirmation Texas4door
#227
Honda-Tech Member
Re: [FAQ] D16Y7 / Y8 MINI-ME WRITE-UP.... WITH PICS (56k, maybe not)
ive had a y7 block and you do have to remove the plug. u screw a screw into it and it pops out... its toward the center between cyl. 2 and 3... a z6 is a vtec block and thier is nothing to remove on a z6 block
#229
Re: [FAQ] D16Y7 / Y8 MINI-ME WRITE-UP.... WITH PICS (56k, maybe not)
i have a 98 lx manual which had the y7, i swapped the head and re wired everything but its idle surging and whenever i try to go it stalls out on me and i have poor throttle response at idle.
any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks
any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks
#231
Re: [FAQ] D16Y7 / Y8 MINI-ME WRITE-UP.... WITH PICS (56k, maybe not)
Hi so im doing the same thing on my del sol so it would be a plug and play ima just need the gaskets and the computer?
#232
Re: (Ricey McRicerton)
I have a D16y7 and I used an aftermarket header for a z6 and took a 2 to 1 pipe from a 2.2 (f22) accord, cutting about 2 inches out of the pipes near the top of the f22 2 to 1 pipe... Welded it back together and it works great.
#233
Re: D16Y7 / Y8 MINI-ME WRITE-UP.... WITH PICS (56k, maybe not)
This is a write-up of my y7/y8 mini me. And since no one has ever done a write up on a 6TH generation mini-me, i've done this Bauleycivic style, though with less detail.
This swap was performed using a 1996 D16Y8 head which was mated onto a 1997 D16y7 block. I also swapped my pistons and rods for those from an 89-91 D16A6 for more compression.
pictures of my particular y8 head: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=720018
What you need to buy:
New coolant and oil
d16y8 head
d16y8 head gasket
new head bolts
AND HERE WE GO: REMOVING THE OLD HEAD
1. drain the engine of coolant and engine oil
2. disconnect all coolant hoses, sensors, throttle cable, exhaust manifold and bracing from the y7 head (leave the y7 intake manifold attached--it makes the head easier to lift)
3. remove the spark plug wires and valve cover from the y7 head
4. unbolt the distributor from the head, and lay it aside, it's unnecessary to remove the dizzy from the engine bay
5. remove the 10 head bolts
6. double-check to make sure nothing else is still attached to the head, and then remove it from the block
now make sure the block is nice and clean, and if you are going to replace your internals like me, this is the time to do it, just drop the oil pan, and remove the rod bolts and pop the pistons out of the top of the block.
oh yeah, next time you hear someone talk about the bottom end of a d-series being unstable, take off the oil pan of a y7 and you'll notice a solid piece of aluminum, at least 3 inches wide tying the main caps together.
PUTTING THE NEW HEAD BACK ON:
FIRST MAKE SURE THE #1 CYLINDER IS AT TDC by rotating the crank usign the crank pulley bolt and that the cam is adjusted to straight up position.
1. spray the y8 head gasket with copper spray and put it in position, then replace the two spacers in the block.
2. lay the head on the block carefully, making sure everything goes on smoothly
3. torque the head bolts following the factory sequence
4. reattach all of the various sensors, timing belt, coolant and vacuum lines, and whatnot to the new head.
Also, at this time, replace the P2E ECU with the P2P from the EX trim level civic. Also be sure to refill the motor with the proper amount of oil and coolant.
NOTE: we did not change the timing belt on my car as it was in near-perfect condition. that is why i have omitted this information from the write-up
Making it all work: this is the tricky part as there are a wires that will need to be either rerouted, spliced, eliminated, or disregarded.
1. The throttle body is a possible point of difficulty, the easiest way is to use the Y8 throttle body and y8 IACV on the head. In order to do this with the y7 wiring harness, you will need to take two spade connectors and connect them to the two prongs on the male side of the IACV connector, the connect these two wires to the three-wire female plug on the y8 wiring harness, being sure to disregard the orange wire. You will need to swap wires A12 and A14, and then disconnect wire A13 from the plug at the ECU.
2. To wire VTEC, you will either need some pigtails or you can just run two wires through the firewall, to the ECU, one coming from the VTEC solenoid and the positive wire from the VTEC pressure sensor. Be sure to ground the negative side of the VTEC pressure sensitive to somewhere on the chassis. Route the VTEC solenoid wire to socket A8 and the pressure sensor to socket C15 (at the ECU)
and i believe that is that!
and here are the pictures:
new pistons VS old pistons:
infinatenexus checking a couple of sensors
so pretty:
putting the dizzy on:
the old head:
the pretty, prepped block:
nice...
even after 67k miles, the cylinder walls still had the cross-hatching from the factory:
if i missed anything, please let me know.
Modified by soccaian at 7:36 PM 1/15/2004
Modified by soccaian at 7:44 PM 1/15/2004
Modified by soccaian at 7:48 PM 1/15/2004
Modified by soccaian at 11:43 PM 1/15/2004
Modified by soccaian at 12:12 AM 1/16/2004
This swap was performed using a 1996 D16Y8 head which was mated onto a 1997 D16y7 block. I also swapped my pistons and rods for those from an 89-91 D16A6 for more compression.
pictures of my particular y8 head: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=720018
What you need to buy:
New coolant and oil
d16y8 head
d16y8 head gasket
new head bolts
AND HERE WE GO: REMOVING THE OLD HEAD
1. drain the engine of coolant and engine oil
2. disconnect all coolant hoses, sensors, throttle cable, exhaust manifold and bracing from the y7 head (leave the y7 intake manifold attached--it makes the head easier to lift)
3. remove the spark plug wires and valve cover from the y7 head
4. unbolt the distributor from the head, and lay it aside, it's unnecessary to remove the dizzy from the engine bay
5. remove the 10 head bolts
6. double-check to make sure nothing else is still attached to the head, and then remove it from the block
now make sure the block is nice and clean, and if you are going to replace your internals like me, this is the time to do it, just drop the oil pan, and remove the rod bolts and pop the pistons out of the top of the block.
oh yeah, next time you hear someone talk about the bottom end of a d-series being unstable, take off the oil pan of a y7 and you'll notice a solid piece of aluminum, at least 3 inches wide tying the main caps together.
PUTTING THE NEW HEAD BACK ON:
FIRST MAKE SURE THE #1 CYLINDER IS AT TDC by rotating the crank usign the crank pulley bolt and that the cam is adjusted to straight up position.
1. spray the y8 head gasket with copper spray and put it in position, then replace the two spacers in the block.
2. lay the head on the block carefully, making sure everything goes on smoothly
3. torque the head bolts following the factory sequence
4. reattach all of the various sensors, timing belt, coolant and vacuum lines, and whatnot to the new head.
Also, at this time, replace the P2E ECU with the P2P from the EX trim level civic. Also be sure to refill the motor with the proper amount of oil and coolant.
NOTE: we did not change the timing belt on my car as it was in near-perfect condition. that is why i have omitted this information from the write-up
Making it all work: this is the tricky part as there are a wires that will need to be either rerouted, spliced, eliminated, or disregarded.
1. The throttle body is a possible point of difficulty, the easiest way is to use the Y8 throttle body and y8 IACV on the head. In order to do this with the y7 wiring harness, you will need to take two spade connectors and connect them to the two prongs on the male side of the IACV connector, the connect these two wires to the three-wire female plug on the y8 wiring harness, being sure to disregard the orange wire. You will need to swap wires A12 and A14, and then disconnect wire A13 from the plug at the ECU.
2. To wire VTEC, you will either need some pigtails or you can just run two wires through the firewall, to the ECU, one coming from the VTEC solenoid and the positive wire from the VTEC pressure sensor. Be sure to ground the negative side of the VTEC pressure sensitive to somewhere on the chassis. Route the VTEC solenoid wire to socket A8 and the pressure sensor to socket C15 (at the ECU)
and i believe that is that!
and here are the pictures:
new pistons VS old pistons:
infinatenexus checking a couple of sensors
so pretty:
putting the dizzy on:
the old head:
the pretty, prepped block:
nice...
even after 67k miles, the cylinder walls still had the cross-hatching from the factory:
if i missed anything, please let me know.
Modified by soccaian at 7:36 PM 1/15/2004
Modified by soccaian at 7:44 PM 1/15/2004
Modified by soccaian at 7:48 PM 1/15/2004
Modified by soccaian at 11:43 PM 1/15/2004
Modified by soccaian at 12:12 AM 1/16/2004
So I think I may have put the wrong belt on and im stuck with the d15b dizzy any help i cant get her started
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Re: D16Y7 / Y8 MINI-ME WRITE-UP.... WITH PICS (56k, maybe not)
This is a write-up of my y7/y8 mini me. And since no one has ever done a write up on a 6TH generation mini-me, i've done this Bauleycivic style, though with less detail.
This swap was performed using a 1996 D16Y8 head which was mated onto a 1997 D16y7 block. I also swapped my pistons and rods for those from an 89-91 D16A6 for more compression.
pictures of my particular y8 head: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=720018
What you need to buy:
New coolant and oil
d16y8 head
d16y8 head gasket
new head bolts
AND HERE WE GO: REMOVING THE OLD HEAD
1. drain the engine of coolant and engine oil
2. disconnect all coolant hoses, sensors, throttle cable, exhaust manifold and bracing from the y7 head (leave the y7 intake manifold attached--it makes the head easier to lift)
3. remove the spark plug wires and valve cover from the y7 head
4. unbolt the distributor from the head, and lay it aside, it's unnecessary to remove the dizzy from the engine bay
5. remove the 10 head bolts
6. double-check to make sure nothing else is still attached to the head, and then remove it from the block
now make sure the block is nice and clean, and if you are going to replace your internals like me, this is the time to do it, just drop the oil pan, and remove the rod bolts and pop the pistons out of the top of the block.
oh yeah, next time you hear someone talk about the bottom end of a d-series being unstable, take off the oil pan of a y7 and you'll notice a solid piece of aluminum, at least 3 inches wide tying the main caps together.
PUTTING THE NEW HEAD BACK ON:
FIRST MAKE SURE THE #1 CYLINDER IS AT TDC by rotating the crank usign the crank pulley bolt and that the cam is adjusted to straight up position.
1. spray the y8 head gasket with copper spray and put it in position, then replace the two spacers in the block.
2. lay the head on the block carefully, making sure everything goes on smoothly
3. torque the head bolts following the factory sequence
4. reattach all of the various sensors, timing belt, coolant and vacuum lines, and whatnot to the new head.
Also, at this time, replace the P2E ECU with the P2P from the EX trim level civic. Also be sure to refill the motor with the proper amount of oil and coolant.
NOTE: we did not change the timing belt on my car as it was in near-perfect condition. that is why i have omitted this information from the write-up
Making it all work: this is the tricky part as there are a wires that will need to be either rerouted, spliced, eliminated, or disregarded.
1. The throttle body is a possible point of difficulty, the easiest way is to use the Y8 throttle body and y8 IACV on the head. In order to do this with the y7 wiring harness, you will need to take two spade connectors and connect them to the two prongs on the male side of the IACV connector, the connect these two wires to the three-wire female plug on the y8 wiring harness, being sure to disregard the orange wire. You will need to swap wires A12 and A14, and then disconnect wire A13 from the plug at the ECU.
2. To wire VTEC, you will either need some pigtails or you can just run two wires through the firewall, to the ECU, one coming from the VTEC solenoid and the positive wire from the VTEC pressure sensor. Be sure to ground the negative side of the VTEC pressure sensitive to somewhere on the chassis. Route the VTEC solenoid wire to socket A8 and the pressure sensor to socket C15 (at the ECU)
and i believe that is that!
and here are the pictures:
new pistons VS old pistons:
infinatenexus checking a couple of sensors
so pretty:
putting the dizzy on:
the old head:
the pretty, prepped block:
nice...
even after 67k miles, the cylinder walls still had the cross-hatching from the factory:
if i missed anything, please let me know.
Modified by soccaian at 7:36 PM 1/15/2004
Modified by soccaian at 7:44 PM 1/15/2004
Modified by soccaian at 7:48 PM 1/15/2004
Modified by soccaian at 11:43 PM 1/15/2004
Modified by soccaian at 12:12 AM 1/16/2004
This swap was performed using a 1996 D16Y8 head which was mated onto a 1997 D16y7 block. I also swapped my pistons and rods for those from an 89-91 D16A6 for more compression.
pictures of my particular y8 head: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=720018
What you need to buy:
New coolant and oil
d16y8 head
d16y8 head gasket
new head bolts
AND HERE WE GO: REMOVING THE OLD HEAD
1. drain the engine of coolant and engine oil
2. disconnect all coolant hoses, sensors, throttle cable, exhaust manifold and bracing from the y7 head (leave the y7 intake manifold attached--it makes the head easier to lift)
3. remove the spark plug wires and valve cover from the y7 head
4. unbolt the distributor from the head, and lay it aside, it's unnecessary to remove the dizzy from the engine bay
5. remove the 10 head bolts
6. double-check to make sure nothing else is still attached to the head, and then remove it from the block
now make sure the block is nice and clean, and if you are going to replace your internals like me, this is the time to do it, just drop the oil pan, and remove the rod bolts and pop the pistons out of the top of the block.
oh yeah, next time you hear someone talk about the bottom end of a d-series being unstable, take off the oil pan of a y7 and you'll notice a solid piece of aluminum, at least 3 inches wide tying the main caps together.
PUTTING THE NEW HEAD BACK ON:
FIRST MAKE SURE THE #1 CYLINDER IS AT TDC by rotating the crank usign the crank pulley bolt and that the cam is adjusted to straight up position.
1. spray the y8 head gasket with copper spray and put it in position, then replace the two spacers in the block.
2. lay the head on the block carefully, making sure everything goes on smoothly
3. torque the head bolts following the factory sequence
4. reattach all of the various sensors, timing belt, coolant and vacuum lines, and whatnot to the new head.
Also, at this time, replace the P2E ECU with the P2P from the EX trim level civic. Also be sure to refill the motor with the proper amount of oil and coolant.
NOTE: we did not change the timing belt on my car as it was in near-perfect condition. that is why i have omitted this information from the write-up
Making it all work: this is the tricky part as there are a wires that will need to be either rerouted, spliced, eliminated, or disregarded.
1. The throttle body is a possible point of difficulty, the easiest way is to use the Y8 throttle body and y8 IACV on the head. In order to do this with the y7 wiring harness, you will need to take two spade connectors and connect them to the two prongs on the male side of the IACV connector, the connect these two wires to the three-wire female plug on the y8 wiring harness, being sure to disregard the orange wire. You will need to swap wires A12 and A14, and then disconnect wire A13 from the plug at the ECU.
2. To wire VTEC, you will either need some pigtails or you can just run two wires through the firewall, to the ECU, one coming from the VTEC solenoid and the positive wire from the VTEC pressure sensor. Be sure to ground the negative side of the VTEC pressure sensitive to somewhere on the chassis. Route the VTEC solenoid wire to socket A8 and the pressure sensor to socket C15 (at the ECU)
and i believe that is that!
and here are the pictures:
new pistons VS old pistons:
infinatenexus checking a couple of sensors
so pretty:
putting the dizzy on:
the old head:
the pretty, prepped block:
nice...
even after 67k miles, the cylinder walls still had the cross-hatching from the factory:
if i missed anything, please let me know.
Modified by soccaian at 7:36 PM 1/15/2004
Modified by soccaian at 7:44 PM 1/15/2004
Modified by soccaian at 7:48 PM 1/15/2004
Modified by soccaian at 11:43 PM 1/15/2004
Modified by soccaian at 12:12 AM 1/16/2004
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