osmond90

DISCLAIMER: "I'm am not promoting street racing. When in need for speed, take it to the track!"

Story: When I was in class yesterday, I heard people chit chatting behind me about the new gen Si. Since I owned the car they were gossiping about,
the least I could do was eavesdrop . While turning around to join in the conversation I accidentally interrupted a scrawny Caucasian insulting the Si.

Here's what he said in short, vaguely quoting him, " The Si is an economic car, slow *** hell with pathetic torque."

I said to him the si isn't fast, but it's quick for what it is. I continued saying that if you compare the si to other N/A 4-banger, it's quite impressive.

Him: "Dude, trust me I smoked the Si on daily man, it's a fu*king slow car... people that drive si think they're the ****. They run like what? 16s?"

Me: Listen, it depends what are you comparing to; Yes it is slow when you are comparing it's 1/4 mile with an evo or sti, and those 1/4 times are slow comparing to my gsxr.

Him: All I'm saying is the Si and riced-out civics are slow. **** how fast is your bike?

Me: umm 1/4 mile around 9-10s.

Him: Dang that's fu*kin fast. I just hate civics, and the people driving them that think they can smoke everyone. Any day of the week, I'll eat civics for breakfast in my v6.

Me: (Thinking to myself, he probably drives a camero or mustang, or something similar) What's your ride?

Him: 1999 Accord LX V6

Me: Stock?

Him: Ya.

Me: Stick?

Him: no.

Me: (My gf drives a 2001 accord I4 auto, and I drove it before, thinking to myself how fast can the v6 be?) Dude...then there's no way you will smoke the 2006+ Si. I have a 2007 si,
you want to run it?

Him: Your car stock?


Me: Yes.

Him: *laughing* Let's do it, I'm getting paid this friday, how about 700?


I agreed and we shook hands. :thumb: We will be drag racing the 1/4 mile on Sat at the Pomona Raceway.

After researching online about the specs of the Accord, The accord has more hp and torque , hehe to be honest I'm nervous. Since his car is automatic he's probably going
to launch it by holding his car still with the brakes, and gassing it. Thus his torque converter will be whined up and ready to go; once the lights turn green he releases the brakes,
and off he goes. Is the v6 much faster than the i4? Both Auto.

What do you guys think? Sure win or anyone's race?


**These specs are from Car and Driver, edmunds, and top speed.com**

2007 Civic Si Stock.

Year: 2007
Make: Honda
Model: Civic Si Sedan
Engine Location: Front
Drive Type: Front Wheel
Weight 2945 lbs

Performance
Top speed : 134 mph
0 - 60 mph (sec): 7.1
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 15.3 @ 93.3

Engine Configuration Inline
Cylinders 4
Engine i-VTEC
Transmission Type: 6-speed Manual
Aspiration/Induction: Normal
Displacement 1998.00 cc | 121.9 cu in. | 2 L.
Valves 16 valves.
4 valves per cylinder.
Valvetrain DOHC
Horsepower 197.00 HP (145 KW) @ 7800.00 RPM
Torque 139.00 Ft-Lbs (188.5 NM) @ 6100.00 RPM
HP to Weight Ratio 14.6 LB / HP (Vehicles with similar ratio)
HP / Liter 98.5 BHP / Liter
Redline 8000

My Actual Car:




**Versus**


1999 Accord Lx V6 Stock

Year 1999
Make Honda
Model Accord LX Sedan
Engine Location Front
Drive Type Front Wheel
Body / Chassis Steel unibody
Weight 3197 lbs | 1450.2 kg
Redline: 6300 rpm

Performance
Top speed: 125mph
0-60 mph 8.1 seconds.
1/4 Mile 15.6 seconds.

Engine
Engine Configuration V
Cylinders 6
Transmission Type: 4-speed Automatic
Aspiration/Induction Normal
Displacement 2997.00 cc | 182.9 cu in. | 3 L.
Valves 24 valves.
4 valves per cylinder.
Valvetrain DOHC
Horsepower 200.00 HP (147.2 KW) @ 5500.00 RPM
Torque 195.00 Ft-Lbs (264.4 NM) @ 4700.00 RPM
HP to Weight Ratio 16.0 LB / HP (Vehicles with similar ratio)
HP / Liter 66.7 BHP / Liter

Not his actual car, but just to give you guys an idea which generation Accord.


**Comparison to my Bike**

2007 Suzuki GSX-R1000 Yoshimura Pipe

Engine: 999cc, inline-4, liquid-cooled, DOHC, 16-valve
Fuel System: Fuel Injection
Lubrication: Wet Sump
Ignition: Digital/transistorized
Transmission: 6-speed, constant mesh
Final Drive: #530 chain
Overall Length: 2045mm (80.5 in)
Overall Width: 720mm (28.3 in.)
Overall Height: 1130mm (44.5 in.)
Dry Weight: 172 kg (379 lbs.)
Horse Power 162 BHP (120 kW) at 9,500 rpm
Torque 80 ft·lb (110 N·m) at 8,000 rpm
HP to Weight Ratio 2.3 LB / HP
HP / Liter 162.2 BHP / Liter
Redline: 12,000 rpm

Performance
Top speed: 192 mph (309 km/h)
1/4 mile time: 9.3 seconds at 157 mph (253 km/h)
0-100 mph time: 6.8 sec.
0-60 mph time: 2.92 sec.


*If I was running him with my gsxr I wouldn't worry :laughing:*


P.S. Anyone here ran their accord 1/4 stock? Thanks in advance.

-Osmond

SIVIC 3

your an idiot.

osmond90

Insults? Please elaborate. mind you almost 200ft/lb tq vs 139ft/lb.

2008fijibluesi

He shouldn't beat you but I hope he does.

dh

iTrader: (3)

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LOL!

I felt like I was reading the script for Fast and Furious Part 3.

100miles+

You should have slapped that dude, he sounds retarded

Sadly tho, I kinda want him to smoke you 2 lmao

burnout8488

Of course you're going to win.

IT GUY

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one little mistake shifting is all it would take for that auto accord to walk on him.


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Same here. Hi Fiji

K5^

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Depends on one's driving ability. The performance number's the op presented variable depending on the driver, in this case the si.

SIVIC 3

^ since you feel the need to correct my punctuation. ill just let YOU know that this thread is about his BIKE vs. the accord. not the si.


op- you still suck.

K5^

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LOL

OP, why would you even get involved with such a tool?

k20roadrage

I don't really understand the point.

This kinda **** is what gives Si owners a bad wrap IMO. Do us all a favor and grow up.


[QUOTE=SIVIC 3]^ since you feel the need to correct my punctuation. ill just let YOU know that this thread is about his BIKE vs. the accord. not the si.


Pretty sure he states the race is between the Accord and the Civic.

K5^

^sarcasm yo, sarcasm.

2008fijibluesi

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Hey buddy!

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Pretty sure he states the race is between the Accord and the Civic.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Correct! Unfortunately, I read through the OP's entire first post, and the race is 1999 V-6 automatic Accord vs. 2007 Si. For whatever reason, the OP felt the need to bring his bike into the comparison.

He obviously realized how much of a douche he is, because he blanked his face in the picture of his bike.

k20roadrage

Nice Fiji

I hope there is a very embarrassed, white faced douche walking around Pomona Raceway on saturday.

RICO_

I pretty much stopped reading after the first sentence....but caught a few glimpses of the rest of the thread.

And to answer ur question.....if you can drive halfway decent you should win no problem. You should also be smart enough to realize that torque doesn't necessarily win races. The key thing you wanna look at (among others) is the HP/weight ratio.....which the Si has the advantage along with the gearing (6 speed vs. Auto).

Do the math......you're racing a car with 3 more HP but 300lbs. more weight and an automatic at that.

Here let me put it in perspective for you......if I can ice a 5 speed '99 3000GT SL with a slightly heavier curb weight than the V6 accord and 220ish HP and 205ft/lbs. torque. then you should have NO problem with this guy. Proof that torque isn't the deciding factor in races.

And just to let you know.....if you weren't sure you could beat him.....it might have been a wise decision to come on here and ask us BEFORE agreeing to the bet with that guy.

So anyway good luck to you and your venture for $700 bucks. Hope you come back a richer man....but in case you don't and you end up losing....feel free to hop a flight to San Antonio so I can give you a big slap in the face and a swift kick in the nuts.

Prelusion98

$700?! Don't you recall that scene from Pulp Fiction?

"[freak] pride."

Good luck man! Too rich for my blood.

Rick James

you'll be fine man i was dead even with a 07 accord v6 the other day and they have more power than the older gens too i think..

SIVIC 3

this thread still sucks.

RICO_

No way........this thread rocks because the OPs name is "Osmond" and he whites out just his eyes when posting pics of himself and leaves the morning newspaper on his driveway......and wears his sunglasses on the top of his head in broad daylight.


Modified by RICO_ at 5:17 AM 8/13/2008

knaira112387

he compares his car to the other guys then pulls the fuking bike out of his ***. nice. just race him with the bike already douche.

K5^

OP: bikes and cars are like apples an oranges.

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^Its not how you stand next to your bike, its how you race your bike. You better learn that.

jeiarneesi

wow $700

thats alot of money ahha good luck O_O..thats alot of money to throw down for a race

i-VTEC_DOHC

hey bro take my advice. i had the same situation as you. my friend has an accord v6 with an intake and header and its auto. i have a dcrh and i we raced and i took him by a long shot. and i let him get a head start for a brief second. you got yourself 700 bucks unless you miss a gear

i-VTEC_DOHC

hey how much is it to run your car there??

cuz i might go this weekend actually.