k0skesh

I just recently heard this. Is it a myth? Is it true? Anyone know?

FBPSidan

only thing ive heard is if you turn VSA off during a long road trip you save a LITTLE gas

originalg00kster

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maybe? i doubt it. VSA helps when you are out of control...or spinning..and it uses the brakes...and not let you gas it anymore for a second or two.
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i dont think this is true.

anavrin351

If your going down the highway at 60 mph and you decide to drop it into 3rd gear the car seems to hesitate a little, unless you rev-match almost perfectly. I turned the VSA off and did the same thing a few more times and there wasnt any hesitation. Im a firm believer in hitting that button everytime i start my car.

Tokyosmash!

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Im sitting in a gas station in Ohio right now, just stopped here from Pa for gas on the way to Arkansas and I have saved no gas without VSA (I have mobile internet = badass) Myth busted? I drove like a gramps the whole way.

Mik3

I think i'd like it more if VSA stayed off but could be turned on. I'd turn it on during rainy weather and keep it off while driving.

Demonis

unless you lose traction it shouldnt effect you at all...

Ross 2.0

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you get the cookie. VSA is a passive system until it detects slipping or high lateral force.

I:_Drive

thought id toss this thought into the wolf pack. VSA may not be directly effecting throttle. but think of it this way. Do your lights dim when your abs kicks on? I noticed it last night in the rain. What if the VSA kicking in is fluctuating the voltage to the DBW system enough that its causing this "lag" in acceleration (not that the ABS is causing but just the extra strain using ABS as an example). I've heard this coming from alot of people and looking into the VSA system discovered it only really controls the brakes of the vehicle. Last night in the taco bell drive through it hit me though like a ton of bricks that this might be whats causing it.

blue2ksi

unless u see the vsa indictor come on... vsa isn't doing anything.

I:_Drive

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thanks for more non-useful garbage posts. anyone have some intelligent input?

ps lrn 2 spel

cnyej1

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thanks for more non-useful garbage posts. anyone have some intelligent input?

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Yeah but what he is saying is the lag/rev hang that is always there cant be caused by the VSA because it is not engaging unless the VSA light comes on/flashes etc. Thus the VSA is not pulling any extra electrical current from the vehicle until its on.

I:_Drive

from what other people been saying it is coming on.. i havent had this happen to me ever. i'm just trying to help. ....

blue2ksi

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i forgot an a. do u really think someone would spell indicator as indictor?

what other fact do u need to hear? if you cant comprehend that if the vsa indicator isn't on, it isn't engaging, then... (sigh) i don't know what to tell you.

ley

I turn it off for road races and track use. I noticed in my days with the SI that when you shift and break traction the VSA kicks in and actually brakes you and hinders your acceleration, so unless I am driving in the rain, I almost always have it off

IT GUY

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maybe? i doubt it. VSA helps when you are out of control...or spinning..and it uses the brakes...and not let you gas it anymore for a second or two.

i dont think this is true.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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I didn't think that VSA had anything to do with the brakes. It was my understanding that when the tires begin to spin VSA cuts signal to the throttle body.. this allows you to slow down / stop spinning.. if it acted on the brakes VSA would be a huge liability in the rain.. you know how you aren't supposed to accelerate or brake while driving through a large puddle to avoid hydroplaning? it seems like if VSA applied the brakes in that situation you'd be SOL and Honda would have some lawsuits on their hands.
ABS = keeps you from braking too much (tires lock, ABS lets releases pressure)
VSA = keeps you from accelerating too much (tires spin, VSA cuts throttle)

get what I'm saying?

somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, please... I hate being misinformed

ley

This is what I was told it does by many, I am not sure though either.

"VSA can detect which tire is losing grip, then brakes the tire that is losing grip and hinders your acceleration until traction is gained again"

Kidnkorner

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word!

Or use the damn spell check

I:_Drive

yea there was a post I made a few days ago that I found on the SAE website about vsa. i doesn't control throttle or fuel at all. it only controls the brakes of each wheel. one is slipping it brakes that wheel til it regains grip

blue2ksi

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i turn it off when im on the track as well... the worst is when im beginning another session and forgot to turn it off and find out the hard way it's still on...

Civinfo

VSA uses both the brakes and the throttle.

Does this link help you?

http://www.civinfo.com/wiki/index.php/VSA

IT GUY

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Does this link help you?

http://www.civinfo.com/wiki/index.php/VSA
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Thanks, got it all cleared up 2 weeks ago when this discussion started